1997 Ford F-150 4X4 electrical problems

Tiny
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  • 1997 FORD F-150
  • 4.6L
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 100,000 MILES
I had the transfer case range sensor go out. I replaced it but I still can not get the front end to engage in 4wd. The frond drive shaft engages but the diff in the front does not. The solenoids are not receiving the ground signal from the gem that they are supposed to. The wires leading to the position sensor are the correct voltage from what I have read. I don't know if there is another way to test if its the gem or if there is another relay somewhere that could be the problem. Help, no one can seem to answer this. Its MSOF by the way not electric, 4x4 light is not burnt out, and low range light works when put in low.
Friday, December 11th, 2015 AT 3:51 PM

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Tiny
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HI, Good Ole Ford 4wd issue, been their many times. Lets start with the basics. 1. In the junction box fuse/relay panel which is under the left side of the dash their is a fuse, fuse number 23 10 amp check that fuse to make sure its good. If the fuse is good you will need to test for voltage at the 4x4 solenoids. The white/light blue is the power wire, so if you have a test light or a voltmeter, make sure you have 12 volts at that connector. Let me know what you find!
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:08 AM
Tiny
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Tested fuse in and out of panel. Its good. Solenoids are getting constant 12v they are supposed to but do not receive ground signal from gem when shifted into 4x4 in order to enable them. Haven't bothered to check for a pneumatic leak until I fix the electrical issue.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:08 AM
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The best way to test the GEM is to plug in a scan tool and see if you have communication. Looks like the GEM is powered from a fuse that runs through the 4WD high light. I believe you said that the 4WD high light is working? If so you may have a bad GEM module, or a open in the 4x4 solenoid ground wire (red). First I would see if you can get someone to scan the GEM, if not you could maybe try a used module and see if that works. These modules were fairly common in their day. The only thing throwing me off is the GEM is responding to you putting the t-case in 4wd low, ie by grounding the 4wd low light circuit turning the light on. The 4WD indicator switch (on left side of transmission) is in charge of telling the GEM what range of 4wd you want. I think that's the switch you replaced? Besides the t-case clutch relay that's pretty much the whole system. So the two questions, does the 4WD HIGH light come on when you engage 4wd high? 2. Was the "range sensor" you replaced on the side of the transmission?
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:08 AM
Tiny
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No 4wd hi light at all aside from flashing on at startup so I know the bulb is good. Yes it was the range sensor that I replaced. I also did a voltage test on the battery saver relay connected to the gem and it came back positive in lower right pin and full ground in upper right pin. This is typically an easy test to see if you have a bad gem. Even a replacement gem of ebay is $150 so I dont really want to spend that for a test. I have an obd2 tester and its not throwing any codes but I dont know if it communicates with the gem or not (autozone tool). I do have a shop I can use that has the $3000 scan tool its just going to be into next week before I can get to it. The 2 wires going from the gem to the position sensor send 5v and 12v. If there was a ground fault wouldnt they ground out? Not understanding how voltage can remain functional with a faulty ground as the sensors job is to ground out the cables depending on what position the transfer case is in.I told you this is a tough one. Im not one to usually ask questions, I can usually google anything but I am stuck on this one and out of ideas.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
Tiny
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Auto zone scanners can only test engine/trans/tcase codes nothing else. Check the items in pic then have it scanned for codes with the other scanner. This pic is for the mechanic shift not electronic. See if power is going and leaving solenoids.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
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The final test would be to check continuity on the red wire from the gem to solenoid to make sure you don't have a break in the wire. Disconnect the GEM and the solenoid connector and see what you have. If you have continuity my guess, is a bad GEM. If you have no continuity well you have a break somewhere in that red ground.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
Tiny
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Continuity between gem and transfer case position sensor is good. Checking solenoid continuity now.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
Tiny
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Both solenoids getting constant power but not receiving ground signal to engage them. Not sure where to find the RPO relay block to test the orange wire. Where is it located. Would much rather replace a relay than the gem.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
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They pu tit in one of the easiest places possible (pun) check the brown wire at tcase for magnetic clutch. Also check fuse 17 under hood as that powers it up. I don'tthink you wil be able to reach this relay. See pic.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
Tiny
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What am I checking the brown wire for and where on the transfer case is it located(front or rear).
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM
Tiny
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The brown wire goes to tcase motor which will be of no help to you because you said that one works. If it 's your gem module it probably will have to be programmed to your vehicle to work anyhow so go get it scanned is your only option now.
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Monday, April 12th, 2021 AT 11:09 AM

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