1981 Jeep CJ7 medic can you help me?

Tiny
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LET'S LOOK FOR CRACKS/ HOLES/ LOOSE CLAMPS ON THE HOSE BETWEEN THE TANK AND FUEL PUMP

ALSO INSURE THIS SAME HOSE GOT HOOKED UP TO THE "DIP TUBE" IN THE TANK, AND NOT TO THE RETURN CONNECTION

BLOWING THRU THIS LINE, IF IT'S CONNECTED RIGHT, OUGHTA MAKE IT BUBBLE THE FUEL IN THE TANK

---THE RETURN CONNECTION WILL JUST BLOW FREE AND CLEAR IF YOU CHECK IT

JUST FOR A TEST, YOU CAN RIG A SHORT HOSE FROM THE TANK SIDE OF THE FUEL PUMP (SUCTION SIDE) INTO A PORTABLE GAS CAN TO INSURE IT'S "PULLIN' FUEL

JUST REMEMBER, IT'LL SUCK YOUR FUEL CAN OUT KINDA FAST, AS THE RETURN LINE WILL BE DUMPING THE "EXTRA PUMPED FUEL" BACK INTO THE ON BOARD TANK

THE MEDIC
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Monday, February 16th, 2015 AT 2:22 PM
Tiny
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WHEN I SAID BLOWING IN THE HOSE TO THE TANK

I MEANT WITH YOUR MOUTH!

DOING IT WITH THE COMPRESSOR MIGHT BLOW THE FILTER SCREEN (SOCK) OFF OF THE DIP TUBE!

THE MEDIC
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Monday, February 16th, 2015 AT 2:25 PM
Tiny
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Roger, medic, i'll try it tomarrow morning. This will be 7 times. Last time I went through this there was nothing. Nada. Blew everthing out and got fuel up the kazoo. I'll try your idea of blowing on the fuel pump line by mouth and check for bubbles. I'm guessing there won't be any. Then, i'll do what I did on time#6 and remove the lines without removing the tank and blow. Then, i'll hook a line up to a container of gas on the floor and see if it runs. I'm beginning to be aggravated. But everything that's wrong has to be something I have done. Report back tomarrow, goodnight, thanks, k
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Monday, February 16th, 2015 AT 8:37 PM
Tiny
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Hi medic
hooked a hose from the end of the steel line where it goes in the tank and stuck the other end in a 5 gal jug under the tank. Jeep ran just fine. Looks like my carb overhaul was good. Looks like the sending unit is goobered. I'll start taking it apart tomarrow.
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Tuesday, February 17th, 2015 AT 11:00 AM
Tiny
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DO YA THINK THE LINES MIGHT BE SWAPPED AT THE TANK?

THE "BLOW TEST" SHOULD LET YOU KNOW

I'LL BE BACK AFTER A BIT

I JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK--THEY JUST CALLED ME BACK IN

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Tuesday, February 17th, 2015 AT 3:47 PM
Tiny
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Hi medic,
got the tank out around noon today and put it in the house where its warm, its about 0 in the shop. Couldn't find a whole lot wrong in there. The rubber o ring under the sending unit was a little larger than all the others in my collection so I swapped it out for new one that's more like a rectangular detail on it. The new sender didn't fit as well as the original so I put the original back in. Held the sock filter up to the light and didn't see anything in there, looked in the tank with a light and didn't see anything either, vacuumed it for a while. Applied some rtv sealant around the sending unit gasket area and put the thing back in and taped all the hoses and blew into it and it pressured up like a balloon. I don't know what else to do. The new sending unit didn't dog into its 2 little slots like the old one does. Both of them were air tight when I covered one end and blew on the other. Since the old one dogged into its slots better I used it. I blew on the flexible hose to the sending unit in the tank and it was not restricted so i'll let the sealant cure overnight and put the whole mess back in tomarrow morning. I was hoping to find something obviously wrong but the larger o ring was all I could see. I don't think that matters too much anyway other than to keep water and mud out of the tank.
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Wednesday, February 18th, 2015 AT 2:21 PM
Tiny
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I did follow the steel lines up the front and have them hooked to the right hose. I'll make sure the hose clamps are tight when I fit the flexible hose from the tank to the steel line, might even put 2 of them on that one. Made sure the hose clamps were tight when I fitted new hose on the tank this afternoon and made sure each one was either 5/16 or 1/4 inch.
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Wednesday, February 18th, 2015 AT 2:34 PM
Tiny
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I JUST WROTE YOU A NOVEL-ADDED TOO MANY PICS AND LOST THE WHOLE NINE YARDS!

YOU GONNA SEND SOME ENGINE PICS?

SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING IS GOOD WITH THE TANK

ANY LUCK?

THE MEDIC
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Wednesday, February 18th, 2015 AT 5:28 PM
Tiny
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Cj medevac,
got the jeep running once again. I couldn't find anything wrong with the install of the sending unit because it was ok(except for the poor fit and the oversized o ring). When I would install the tank assembly the last few inches I managed to kink the rubber fuel line. Theres no room so this time I stretched my fingers in there and made sure the pump line wasn't kinked. Pushed and pulled on it with fingers from both hands. Now I have a tail light that quit because there is a wiring harness in that area that was always in the way so that is the culprit I am sure. Drove it to Shelby to buy groceries and returned and fueled up in new era and the gas gauge functions fine. That's the 35 year old sending unit in there. So tomarrow after snow throwing and a trip to the parts store for spark plug wires and some batteries for the digital camera, i'll finally get to taking pictures and send them to you. Its below 0 here at night with blowing drifting snow so that eats a lot of the clock but I am gaining on it. Wow what a relief. My carb rebuild is fine and I managed to goober a spark plug wire the other day so i'll get them all replaced and take it from there. Thanks for following me. The old vw bus had a big inspection cover so you could look down on the flat 4 and decide what was up with it. That's what the cj needs. Such a pain to have to remove the tank for a sending unit or fuel line problem, later, k
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Thursday, February 19th, 2015 AT 1:57 PM
Tiny
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LOST ANOTHER NOVEL TO YOU

THIS TIME WHEN I SUBMITTED AND WENT TO SEE IF IT POSTED, I FOUND THAT I HAD BEEN "TIMED OUT" AND HAD TO RE-SIGN IN

GLAD YOU FOUND THE KINK (I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT)

I'LL REWRITE THE NOVEL TOMORROW

WAITIN' ON SOME GOOD PICS

THE MEDIC
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Thursday, February 19th, 2015 AT 6:00 PM
Tiny
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A FEW MORE

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Thursday, February 19th, 2015 AT 6:16 PM
Tiny
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Hi medic,
thought it was good to go until just now on a trip to get spark plug wires and fuel for the snow thrower it started coughing and spiting barely made it back to the garage. I just can't believe it. It ran very well yesterday after I got the tank in. Ran it about 12 miles to the store and back no problem. So, now, i'll go back out and replace the spark plug wires ( I broke one the other day and cobbled it back together using the motorhomes old wires. Then I have the newly rebuilt carburetor to install, haven't opened its box yet but I guess now is the time to put it on and cross my fingers.
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Friday, February 20th, 2015 AT 9:50 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for all the help medic, I'm giving up. Put the rebuilt carb on and new wires (that didn't fit very well, put the old wires back on) the thing shakes from side to side like it did when I had the plugs gapped wrong so I took out the plugs and gapped them to 030 and it still seems to miss on one cylinder and shakes back and forth. I've spent too much money on the thing and i'll have to park it until I can deal with it again. Thanks again, k
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Friday, February 20th, 2015 AT 2:17 PM
Tiny
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Hi medic,
took a good look at the distributor and its junk. When it quit running it was because the black wire to the coil broke at a copper dealy bob inside the distributor that goes to a spring thingy. And the 2 hold downs for the vacuum plate broke off so the part that holds the points was loose. So, in the morning after snow throwing(10 below zero and blowing snow) ill take the piece of junk to the local parts store and show them what happened. Should I go with the original electronic distributor? This piece of junk is from a junkyard from the 1970's I am sure.
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Friday, February 20th, 2015 AT 4:15 PM
Tiny
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I HAD TO WORK LATE, GOTTA GO BACK IN THE MORNING TOO :-(

STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL MOTORCRAFT DISTRIBUTOR

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO PULL IT (CORRECTLY) SO THAT THE NEXT ONE WILL GO IN PERFECT AND STILL BE IN SYNC WITH TDC AND REMAIN IN THE FIRING SEQUENCE?

I CAN LINK YOU OR EXPLAIN IT--EZ WAY BEFORE YOU PULL IT/ HARDER WAY IF YOU PULLED IT WITHOUT KEEPING TRACK OF THE POSITIONS OF STUFF

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH REMAN PARTS, IN FACT, MANY OF THEM HAVE A LIFETIME WARRANTY, NEW STUFF MAY HAVE A YEAR OR TWO

STUDY THE BOTTOM END OF THIS LINK, IT MIGHT AID YOU WITH THE PURCHASE OF YOUR DISTRIBUTOR OR OTHER PARTS, "A124" HAS BEEN WORKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME, IT WORKED, ONCE AGAIN, FOR ME ON MONDAY, I SAVED $40 ON A BATTERY FOR THE COMPANY VAN!

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/2001-dodge-neon-milage-just-want-put-fliuds-their-locations

THE MEDIC

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Friday, February 20th, 2015 AT 4:57 PM
Tiny
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Parts guys ordered a distributor that is same as this one, delco remy from late 60's to 74 before amc went to electronic. I'll remove the condenser and the points and install them in the new one Monday morning. The ground wire to the coil fell of inside the distributor. I bumped the engine around to tdc with the rotor facing close to #1 spark plug so hopefully the new one will go back in ok.
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Saturday, February 21st, 2015 AT 9:39 AM
Tiny
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I RECKON SOMEBODY JUST LIKED "THE POINT SYSTEM"

SO I RECKON THE ELECTRONIC IGNITION MODULE AND IT'S WIRING IS NO MORE?

YOU CAN STILL GO ELECTRONIC EZily, AND REVERT BACK TO POINTS (IF YOU KEEP THEM ONBOARD IN A ZIPLOCK BAG AND IN A CRUSH PROOF BOX) ABOUT TEN MINUTES IS ALL IT WOULD TAKE

REVERT REASON, MEANING, SHOULD THIS ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FAIL (AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A REPLACEMENT), OR THEM PESKY EMPs TAKE OUT ALL ELECTRONICS EVERYWHERE. ONLY A FEW OF US WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE A VEHICLE, IF OUR POINTS ARE ONHAND!

ALTHOUGH THIS PARTICULAR KIT IS FOR MY WILLYS, THIS COMPANY MAKES 'EM FOR MIGHT NEAR ANY POINTS TYPE DISTRIBUTOR (FIND THE MODEL NUMBER) SEE THIS POST, YOU WILL SEE HOW EZ IT IS, AND WELL WORTH IT TOO!

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1972-volkswagen-beetle-should-intake-manifold-very-hot-touch

STILL WAITING ON YOUR PICS!

WE STILL MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THINGS RUN A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT

THE MEDIC
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Saturday, February 21st, 2015 AT 11:57 AM
Tiny
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Previous owners removed everything electronic under the hood. So I am awaiting parts again: new distributor delco remy, i'll use the points and condenser (they only ran 200 miles or so) also ordered new wires and cap and rotor. Hope the timing is right since I left the spark plugs in and just hit the starter a bit to rotate the engine to where the rotor pointed to #1 spark plug wire and the timing mark stopped at tdc (0 on the scale). Distributor should be back in and running before noon Monday.
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Saturday, February 21st, 2015 AT 12:46 PM
Tiny
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Hi medic,
got the new distributor in and its a runner again! Have the camera plugged into the computer so here we go
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Monday, February 23rd, 2015 AT 11:21 AM
Tiny
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I really don't know how to mess with these pictures
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Monday, February 23rd, 2015 AT 11:32 AM

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