ECM wiring diagram needed?

Tiny
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My family and I went on vacation. While we were gone someone cut some of the wires to my ECM connector below the pin. We just bought a new ECM, ECM connector and pins to replace the old one that had two pins burn up and everything was ready to connect. Now I don't know where the cut wires go if thrones in connector are correct or if someone moved them, I cannot find anywhere diagram of where each wire and pin go in connector and correct color for each whole help. I love my car it was almost finished and drivable.
Friday, July 21st, 2023 AT 7:28 AM

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Tiny
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Hello, sorry to hear about your issue there. Thats a terrible thing for someone to do. Ill post the ECM connector pinout diagrams for you. You will have to by wire color to the correct pins. But you should be able to do it, just take your time, Ill post them in a few minutes.
Here are the 2 ECM connector pinouts. The pin number then the wire color, just so you know, the L-BU on pin 18 for example is Lite Blue. Make sure to check the fuses throughout the vehicle before attempting a start. If some wires were shorted out, there will be fuses burned up.
Which 2 pins burned up on the ECM connector?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse
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Saturday, July 22nd, 2023 AT 12:08 PM
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Thank you very much. I believe one is red and white or possibly pink, white not sure if the color has faded the other is purple. Sending you picture of burned connector and the two wires. Greatly appreciate your help.
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Saturday, July 22nd, 2023 AT 11:53 PM
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Okay, I'll try to figure out which wires those are. Looks pink/white and purple (violet). The issue with these PCM connectors is they are both Black and seem to have the same exact pin setup. Were you able to figure out which one is X1 and X2? And is this section of the connector missing? Looking through another service info location, there looks to be a couple different designs. This other site has the X1 connector with options LE5, LY7, LZ4, LZ9. The LY7 is def not yours, but is there a part number on the ECM case by chance? I do see different part number listings here, I'm not sure why service info is so different per site. But a part number would help. I think the difference might be engine size, but they have them listed kind of misleading.

And are the 2 wires with the burned pins next to each other, I see a Red/White pin 20 Battery Positive voltage from ECM Fuse 13 10amp, and next to it pin 21 Purple Low Reference (Ground) for the APP sensor on the gas pedal. I don't see any Pink/White at all for the ECM. I can see if those 2 wires shorted together, especially if someone cut those wires together at the same time, because ECM Fuse 13 is hot at all times.

The APP sensor only works off of 5v references, not 12-volt. So, you may want to check the sensor on the gas pedal, it might be burned out as well, that fuse hopefully popped too.
Your ECM doesn't have 3 connectors, does it? Service info here is really incorrect in some places.
Ok I figured out the 3 connector ECM is for the 3.6liter engine, very misleading info here.
Diagram 4 is ECM X1 pins 20 and 21, for the wires you showed. Red/white 20, purple 21.
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Sunday, July 23rd, 2023 AT 12:36 PM
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There are only two connectors to the ECM and yes, the two burn pins are together and the part number for the ECM is 12612397 on the new ECM I bought o am sending pick if ECM I bought my car is the g6 base 2.4 if you need, I can send you the VIN. I know sometimes stuff goes by the VIN. Thank you for all your help.
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Sunday, July 23rd, 2023 AT 5:12 PM
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Okay, then yeah, it's the pins 20 and 21, so a battery feed could have been shorted through the APP sensor back to the ECM while the wires were being cut, I'm sure they used metal cutters for the wires which would short out a bunch of wires at once while they were doing it. Since it was a ground for the APP sensor the short might have gone through the APP sensor, then through the ECM to ground. Since that battery feed is a constant feed that is for the ECM memory. It needs a 12v feed that is very low current to sustain the EPROM and learned memory for the computer. So, check that ECM Fuse 13 10amp for a blown fuse.
This diagram is the APP sensor, it's basically 2 sensors in 1. It has two 5volt feeds, two Grounds (Low Reference) and two Signal wires, So 6 wires in total. If you unplug it, you can check the resistance across the 5v Ref wire and Low ref wire. They should both read about the same resistance. If 12volts were shorted through it on the Low Ref wire from pin 21, that would be the purple wire and the tan wire. The other two wires are the white/black and the brown. The 12-volts might have damaged the resistor you can see that is across the purple and tan wires. Since this is such a rare case, it's difficult to say exactly what happened. But that sensor is not made to handle 12-volts. You just want to make sure the sensor doesn't short out when you plug in the new ECM, it will cause a no start.
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Sunday, July 23rd, 2023 AT 5:35 PM
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If you are going to junk the present ECM, would you mind sending it to me, I'll see if I can repair any burned traces and send it back. I'll let you know right away if it's not repairable. But I repair modules on the side, along with a lot of other electronics. You'll have a spare if it's not too fried internally. There's no charge, just leave your email and Ill contact you on the side.
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Monday, July 24th, 2023 AT 1:24 PM
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My email is wayneshawna@gmail. Com
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Tuesday, July 25th, 2023 AT 1:30 AM
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Okay, did you have any trouble identifying the connectors to pins and wires so far? I see the connectors base on the new module look different colors, I believe they were both black in the wiring diagrams, but pretty sure those 2 burned pins were in X1. I don't see any pink/white or red/white wires in X2 at all. Just want to be sure everything is going back together okay.
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Tuesday, July 25th, 2023 AT 12:38 PM
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This is my attempt to resurrect this thread. I have the same problem as shown above, and I'm wondering why the wire burned in the first place, but I will have to go look at the GND connection to the motor body (as shown above).

But, I would like to know if anyone knows how to remove the pin/connector #73 in the image already shared above. I would like to run a new/clean/higher-gauge GND wire as a replacement for the melted/brittle one.
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Monday, April 14th, 2025 AT 5:49 PM
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Hi All - I don't know why my last post isn't visible, so forgive me for the duplicate, if it appears.

1) why do these GND wires get warm enough to melt the insulation, and eventually break?
2) is it possible to remove the "pin" from the GND connector, #73, in this connector? I would like to replace the old/fragile wire with a new one.

Thank you!
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Tuesday, April 15th, 2025 AT 4:44 AM
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Hello Sean, the post was most likely moved or removed because your topic/issue should have been started in a question/post of its own. But wires overheat due to high resistance in the circuit, it may be that the pin in the ECM connector is spread apart and not making good contact with the ECM pins. That would be a location where the lack of a solid connection would cause it to get hot, or the ground itself is not good.
I wouldn't replace it with a high gauge wire. The wiring harness is engineered to carry the necessary current. If wires are melting, it's because of a problem that needs to be addressed.
You need to check the pin tension inside the ECM connector first, use a pin that is slightly smaller than the one on the ECM side of the connection, and make sure there is good drag on the pin inside the harness side of the connector.
When these connectors are unplugged and plugged back in over the years or even just because its a ground or power wire, they carry more current than a sensor wire for example, so they heat up and cool down over many years, expanding and contracting, this can also cause them to end up with spread connector pins.

So, check the pin tension first. To actually de-pin the connector you will need to remove the connector's cover on the back if there is one, and from the back side there is a tab that is holding the pin into the connector, they are snap in tabs, and not easy to see. Use a bright flashlight to look into the back of the connector, the tab will be either on the top or bottom of the wire pin. These are small pins, probably only 2mm or so, you have to be very careful when trying to get the tab up so the pin will come out, don't force it at all, the wire should come right out when the tab is pulled up. I use a very small flat screwdriver, something like what is used for a pair of glasses screw.
They sell kits of different sizes for automotive connector pin removal tools for this.
Search YouTube for "automotive ECM pin removal method" and you will come up with many videos that show how to do it, because you don't want to damage the connector or the pin will never make good contact again.

You should load test that wire as well with a higher amperage test light such as a turn signal bulb or head lamp bulb. With the ECM connector unplugged use that pin as the ground for the bulb and B+ to power it, only do this test for a second or two, just to see if the circuit can carry current. Something else you can do during the load test is have a multimeter setup on DC volts going from that same pin to battery negative, this is a voltage drop test while load testing the wire.
It will tell you if there is excessive voltage drop from the ECM ground to battery negative terminal. You should see as close to 0volts as possible, there will be some voltage drop, but not much.
Hope this helps, in the future, start a new question/thread and someone will help you, that way the question won't be moved or removed on you.
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Tuesday, April 15th, 2025 AT 12:35 PM

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