Rear blower motor not working

Tiny
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The blower is fine, I took it out and tested at the battery. I replaced the blower motor module, and it still does not work. I'm stumped.
Saturday, June 4th, 2022 AT 4:39 PM

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Tiny
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Just to be sure you replaced the aux blower motor control module and not the one in the front.

If you did, then we need to check two more things.

First, we need to check the power at the blower motor and confirm you are getting 12-volts when it is on high.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Then we need to check the grounds by using the 12-volt source and then both grounds and your meter should read 12-volts.

If it does, then we need to move to the control processor. We need to check and find out if there are 12-volts on the B+ circuit and then the speed control should change as you increase the speed.

Lastly, we need to check this ground the same as the other.

Please run through this and let us know what you find and then we can go from there to find out the next steps.
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Sunday, June 5th, 2022 AT 5:21 PM
Tiny
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Power at purple motor wire 12v, grounds check out, signal wire seems to change with speed.
The black ground next to B+ red wire is fine. The B+ wire has 12 v, the sig wire seems to change when fan speed is changed, the orange wire ground for the motor doesn't seem to work, the purple power wire to fan has 12v. If I jump a wire from the pillar ground the motor runs.
Does this help at all, or does it mean I have a bad module?
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Monday, June 13th, 2022 AT 12:12 PM
Tiny
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Just to be sure, you are jumping a wire from the motor to ground and the motor runs.

Can you confirm what terminal you are jumping this wire from on the motor to ground?

I am attaching the blower motor connector below. Thanks
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Monday, June 13th, 2022 AT 2:58 PM
Tiny
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Yes, I used the black wire B on the pic.
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Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 10:01 AM
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Sorry I had issues connecting to the site. Yes, I jumpered the B wire in the connector, actually it's an orange wire in my truck but the same location. And the blower motor ran.
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Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 10:48 AM
Tiny
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So, if you provided ground and the motor ran then the module is not grounding the motor. That means that the module would be the issue.

Is that what you replaced?
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Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 11:12 AM
Tiny
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Yes, I replaced the control module about 2 years ago and it has never worked. I have a new AC Delco control module I could install.
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Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 11:24 AM
Tiny
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Yeah. I would give that a shot.

Looking at the wires at the control module, which I know you said you checked and provided but I just want to make sure.

On the speed control wire (B), that is going to vary depending on what you put the switch on.

The B+ wire (C) you should have 12 volts.

The ground (A) should be ground so use C to check this and your meter should read 12 volts when on C and A.

Then the black wire going to the motor is your ground for the motor.

The purple wire going to the motor is your voltage supply and will vary based on the switch setting.

Take a look at the diagram again and if this is what you have except for the ground coming from the motor back to the module then the module is the issue.
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Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 6:13 PM
Tiny
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I changed the module and still no joy.
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Wednesday, June 15th, 2022 AT 11:31 AM
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Everything is the same as with the old module. I jumped from the cigarette lighter, and it ran but very hot on my test leads. Is that circuit 30-amps? Is there any way to run a 30-amp switch to the blower or is there something else messed up?
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Wednesday, June 15th, 2022 AT 12:06 PM
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Test leads getting hot points to a faulty ground.

However, I thought you said that it only ran when applying ground.

Meaning it has 12 volts but no ground.

But if you are running power from the lighter then that would mean we don't have power.

So, let's take a step back.

Can you turn the blower motor on high and go to the module and tell me each voltage on the wire?

Check this by a known good ground for your black lead of your meter and then touch each wire terminal with the red lead.
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Wednesday, June 15th, 2022 AT 6:52 PM
Tiny
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I'll do it in the morning. Do I disconnect the connector at the module or back probe with it plugged in?
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Wednesday, June 15th, 2022 AT 7:31 PM
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Great question. Back probe the connector with the entire circuits intact. So, everything is connected so that we can see what the system is doing.

Thanks. We will wait to hear back.
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Wednesday, June 15th, 2022 AT 7:49 PM
Tiny
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A-Blk ground good A>C= 14.83v
B-Sig wire pillar ground>B=3.65v
C-Bat pillar ground>C=14.83v
D-M(-) C>D=no reading
E-M(+) pillar ground>E=14.84v

All these were taken with engine running A/C on auto high.
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 11:34 AM
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Okay. That keeps us focused on the ground from the module to the motor. So, the black wire that is connecting the motor back to the module should show ground as all the other readings are correct.

So, this means we need to ohm out the wire itself.

Take a look at the diagram below. Disconnect both connectors (module and motor) and we need to measure the resistance of the wire itself from connector to connector.

You put your meter on ohms and then just touch one terminal to each end of this wire and tell me what the resistance is.
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 12:22 PM
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No reading at all the screen on the meter never changes. I even put it on audio and the same results.
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 1:01 PM
Tiny
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Here's the current module wiring.
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 1:08 PM
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E-M(+) pillar ground>E=14.84v, this must be 0 volts. Can you run a ground wire to this one first to see if the system starts working?
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 4:34 PM
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Yes, I'll give it a shot. Why should this be a ground I thought the ground was D and E was the hot. Is this circuit controlled by the ground?
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 4:56 PM
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I ran ground to that wire and it flamed up it did not start the motor and blew the fuse.
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Thursday, June 16th, 2022 AT 5:43 PM

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