Engine is cold it makes a loud noise that sounds as if a fan is hitting something?

Tiny
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  • 2012 NISSAN ALTIMA
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When I drive my car after letting it warm up, I go to accelerate and when I push on the gas pedal it makes a scraping noise sort of like metal on metal. Also when I first turn on my car and the engine is cold it makes a loud noise that sounds as if a fan is hitting something but it is very noticeable and its very loud it definitely sounds like something is hitting another thing but the sound disappears when my car warms up for a couple seconds. Any ideas? There are no lights on my dashboard other than my brake light but it goes on and off sometimes. I recently got new spark plugs and ignition coils put in my car.
Tuesday, March 2nd, 2021 AT 9:00 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

It's interesting that it goes away when it warms up. Do me a favor. Open the hood and check the cooling fans to see if there is evidence of the fan touching the fan shroud. If you look at pic 1, it shows what you are looking for. When you open the radiator, the fan is located between the radiator and the engine.

Also, if it's possible, please record the sound and upload it for me to hear. Hopefully, I'll be able to recognize it.

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care and God Bless,
Joe
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Tuesday, March 2nd, 2021 AT 8:09 PM
Tiny
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Hi, thank you for getting back to me. I will record the sound when I get the chance it might be a later date. It goes away after a couple of seconds not just when it warms up but it is a loud noise and very concerning. But I will get that video for you!
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Wednesday, March 3rd, 2021 AT 11:21 AM
Tiny
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Here is the video of the noise, if you need pictures of anything let me know.
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Wednesday, March 3rd, 2021 AT 12:03 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I did hear it. It didn't last too long, but I did hear it. Does the sound seem to be more toward the front of the engine. When I say front, I am referring to where the serpentine belt is located. Also, please make sure the engine oil is clean and full. If it is low, it could be the cams and lifters making noise until oil gets to them.

If it seems louder there, it sounds like it could be a water pump or one of the belt-driven accessories. If this is the case, if the serpentine belt is removed, you could start the vehicle cold for a few seconds to see if the sound is gone. I'm thinking it could be the water pump because I heard a small amount of belt squeaking. That happens if the belt gets contaminated with coolant. Have you noticed if the coolant is getting low or anything under the vehicle?

I don't know if you are comfortable doing this, but here are the directions for removing and replacing the serpentine belt. Only do this if it seems as if this is where the sound is most prominent. The attached pics correlate with the directions.

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2012 Nissan-Datsun Altima L4-2.5L (QR25DE)
Removal And Installation
Vehicle Engine, Cooling and Exhaust Engine Drive Belts, Mounts, Brackets and Accessories Drive Belt Service and Repair Removal and Replacement Removal And Installation
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION
DRIVE BELTS

Removal and Installation

REMOVAL

1. Remove the fender protector side cover RH. See: Front Fender Liner > Removal and Replacement > Coupe (Coupe models) or See: Front Fender Liner > Removal and Replacement > Sedan (Sedan models).

See pic 1

2. Securely hold the hexagonal part in pulley center of drive belt auto-tensioner, move in the direction of arrow (loosening direction of tensioner) using Tool.

Tool number: - (J-46535)

WARNING:
- Avoid placing hand in a location where pinching may occur if the holding tool accidentally comes off.

CAUTION:
- Do not loosen the auto-tensioner pulley bolt. (Do not turn it counterclockwise.) If turned counterclockwise, the complete auto-tensioner must be replaced as a unit, including pulley.
3. Insert a rod approximately 6 mm (0.24 in) in diameter through the rear of tensioner into retaining boss to lock tensioner pulley.
- Leave tensioner pulley arm locked until drive belt is installed again.
4. Loosen drive belt from water pump pulley and then remove it from the other pulleys.
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INSTALLATION

1. Install the drive belt onto all of the pulleys except for the water pump pulley. Then install the drive belt onto water pump pulley last.

CAUTION:
Confirm belts are completely set on the pulleys.
2. Release tensioner, and apply tension to drive belt.

WARNING:
- Avoid placing hand in a location where pinching may occur if the holding tool accidentally comes off.

CAUTION:
- Do not loosen the auto-tensioner pulley bolt. Don't turn it counterclockwise. If turned counterclockwise, the complete auto-tensioner must be replaced as a unit, including pulley.
3. Turn crankshaft pulley clockwise several times to equalize tension between each pulley.
4. Confirm tension of drive belt at indicator is within the allowable use range. See: Drive Belt > Procedures > Checking.
5. Install the fender protector side cover RH. See: Front Fender Liner > Removal and Replacement > Coupe (Coupe models) or
See: Front Fender Liner > Removal and Replacement > Sedan (Sedan models).

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Let me know.

Take care,
Joe
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Wednesday, March 3rd, 2021 AT 5:08 PM
Tiny
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Thank you. I will troubleshoot using these suggestions. I am also going to get my oil changed now to see if that will resolve my issue. Thank you. I will get back to you if anything changes!
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Thursday, March 4th, 2021 AT 7:19 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

You are very welcome. If you have the chance, let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe
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Friday, March 5th, 2021 AT 7:59 PM

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