No electrical power to anything

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MOLLIEANNA1972
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  • 1991 FORD F-150
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Initially, truck sporadically kept cranking only way to stop it was pull battery cable off. After replacing starter, solenoid, key ignition, ignition control modular headlight switch pigtail, alternator. Still didn't fix it. Drove truck shut it off I went to start it again, completely dead as if I had pulled the battery not even headlights. I then replaced battery, new battery cables, relay switch, replaced ignition modular again and replaced ignition again. Tested starter it was fine and checked inertia switch. Also checked all grounds were good. Still dead. Been using probe tester only positive wire up to the starter relay. After that all wires stay green. The signal wire from the ignition switch stays green too and it is supposed to have power. Can that be causing the whole truck to be dead? And what does that wire connect to? Any other ideas? I'm stumped!
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Hello,

Okay, so you have no power at all with a new battery. Let's see if we can't find the problem and then find and fix the root cause of the problem. In the diagrams down below I have included a wiring diagram of your vehicle's starting circuit. Let's check the Fusible Link G and see if it's still intact. I have included a diagram with the component location in the diagrams down below for you as well. Please check this fusible link and get back to us with what you find out. We can go from there.

Thanks,
Alex
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BLACKHAT89
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I just bought a 1986 f150. It is a stock factory vehicle with a 302. The starter relay was bad and the original owner had unhooked the wireing from it. There is no power to anything in the truck, no headlights, door buzzer, nothing. But the battery is fully charged.I would like to know which wires conect to to what side of the relay cause I think this is where the power starts. There are four wires in question and I will describe them from the end connecters to the harness;one black 16 gauge wire with a that plugs into the harness. One red 16 gauge that goes to a black fuse link and then becomes yellow, one black 16 gauge wire into an orange fuse link into black wire, one blue 18 gauge into black fuse link then becomes a yellow 18 gauge.I have already donated and I thank you.
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Hi blackhat89, Welcome to 2carpros and TY for the donation

How many small terminal on the starter relay if only one

Put the red and light blue wire on the S small terminal the rest goes to the battery terminal on it coming from the battery not to the starter side of the relay Let me know


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_relay_32.jpg

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SANDERS CHRIS
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  • 1986 FORD F-150
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Cranks from starter solenoid but no power from key ignition. So I have no dash lights and no other power from the key ignition. How can I fix that?
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Hello my name is Dave.

It sounds like you have a bad connection on the battery side of the solenoid, possibly a blown fusible link. Has the solenoid been changed recently? If it has I have seen a common problem where people accidentally connected the power buss (the group of wires that supply power to the vehicle) to be connected to the starter side of the solenoid, sometimes it is only one wire which can make it start by jumping it but also cause the issues you are describing. My suggestion would be to check these wires and to check if the fusible link has blown, you can do this by probing the wire with a test light on the other side of the link (looks like a small block on the wire) there should always be power to it. I hope this helps you find your problem and if you need further assistance we are always here and thank you for using 2CarPros.
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Good morning,

Just to add, I will attach a wiring diagram for you to view of the starting system.

If you have a test light or voltmeter, you can do some checks.

Roy
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SANDERS CHRIS
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Okay, thanks.
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Okay, but will this give me power back to everything inside the cab of my truck?
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I have a new starter, starter solenoid, new key tumbler and ignition switch, and battery, but still no power inside my cab?
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Okay, just as Dave said in his reply, check the fusible link that I listed in the diagram at the battery or at the solenoid.

Roy
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I agree with my friends. The two wires at ignition switch in diagram, is hot all the time. If those two wires are not hot, replacing the ignition switch won't help anything. You can see fusible link in diagram. Sorry, I just realized the diagram was already posted, my bad.
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SANDERS CHRIS
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Okay, I checked around some more like y'all said and came across this and they looked burnt and had no power to them.
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Yep. They are the links.

The issue is, why did they fail. Just like a fuse, they fail for a reason. If you do not find the reason, you did not fix anything.

Roy
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Okay, fixed the no power thing. But now when I turn the key the starter solenoid just clicks no crank.
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If the solenoid clicks then the starter is the problem.

Roy
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