Need help identifying a noise

Tiny
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  • 2004 PONTIAC GRAND AM
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Front passenger side makes a rubbing sound that you only hear when the vehicle is moving. Gets louder as vehicle accelerates. I checked for anything rubbing and nothing. Not a stick caliper as I changed it. Possible wheel bearing?That same one was changed a year ago. It does need a putter tie rod end which I am changing this week. That would not cause that sound though would it? I jacked car up an shook tire an it only moved side to side as the tie rod is bad. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 6:38 AM

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Tiny
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Try driving in a left hand circle then a right if the noise increases more on left hand then it is the right wheel bearing kind of sounds like it.
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 6:50 AM
Tiny
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Okay, I will have to check later. There is no clicking when turning but could that have anything to do with the CV?
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 8:37 AM
Tiny
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Clicking is usually a CV joint, but it could be a wheel bearing if bad enough.
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 12:07 PM
Tiny
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I know clicking is CV. My question is does a CV always click when it is bad or could it make this rubbing /grinding type noise?
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 3:51 PM
Tiny
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I have never heard one make a grinding noise, but If you see grease around one of the boots then it broke a boot and all lube is gone from joint so it may do that.
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 4:03 PM
Tiny
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Well I changed the bearing that went good an now my damn issue is this outter tie rod will not free from the inner.I tried a bunch of penetrating oil an heat. Will not come loose. Looks like I will be replacing inner as well but need to get this outter off for now. Any suggestions will help. Thanks.
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Sunday, June 25th, 2017 AT 7:31 AM
Tiny
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If it is the outer you ned to loosen the jam nut otherwise it will give you problems
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Sunday, June 25th, 2017 AT 9:51 AM
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The jam nut will not losen.
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Sunday, June 25th, 2017 AT 12:51 PM
Tiny
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Try this, heat with a propanetorch then cool with penetrating oil and tap nut with a small hammer all around then repeat this 5 times and then see if nut will turn away from tie rod end.
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Sunday, June 25th, 2017 AT 3:26 PM
Tiny
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I tried that a few times. Will not losen.I am going to change the inner one to. Can I remove the inner tie rod while the outter one is still attached to it?Here are a couple pics of the nut I cannot losen.
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Sunday, June 25th, 2017 AT 10:16 PM
Tiny
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Have you tried what I suggested by heating then cooling with the penetrating oil an dtapping nut all around? That usually works you can pull the inner and outer with no problem other than the boot will have to be replaced on to new inner.
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Monday, June 26th, 2017 AT 7:11 AM
Tiny
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Yes I did tap it. Not sure what the deal is. The inner one is going bad anyway. Its not tight in the joint. Lits of play.I was going to replace that next pay day. But I'll just do it now. Thanks for the advice. This site helps allot
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Monday, June 26th, 2017 AT 7:25 AM
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Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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Wednesday, June 28th, 2017 AT 5:23 PM
Tiny
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I tried the heat, cooling, an tapping one more time an it popped loose. It did not work the first few times I tried. Anyway, rented the tie rod adapters an the inner came out easy. Put all the new parts on an just got a wheel alignment. Good to go. Appreciate the help you guys give. It helps allot. Especially for someone like me who likes doing my own work.
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Wednesday, June 28th, 2017 AT 8:13 PM
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Nice work, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.

Cheers, Ken
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Thursday, June 29th, 2017 AT 10:48 AM

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