Motor trans transfer case swap

Tiny
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Hi I have swapped my 2001 gmc sierra motor trans and transfer case with a 2004 chevy silverado. Kept wiring harness.
The transfer case wiring is different.
Sierra has 2 plugs while silverado has 2 connectors.
Truck runs but doesnt want to shift.
Anyone know which wires I can splice to make the truck recognize the different transfer case?
I was told after its wired I will have to take in and have computered flashed to make it shift properly?
Will upload pics if needed.
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Sunday, November 21st, 2021 AT 11:57 AM

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Tiny
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I think the issue we are going to have is if the new transfer case is a 2-speed automatic or a manual?

I am attaching the wiring diagrams below for each of these. The first 2 are of your GMC.

The next two are the 2-speed auto.

The last is the 2-speed manual transfer case.

I understand that your truck may be set up for an auto shift transfer case as I think all the GMC trucks had the 2-speed auto but the truck that you got this transfer case of could have the auto or manual.

If you have the auto transfer case, then the wiring is slightly different, but you should be able to match up your wiring to try and get this operating.

Here is a guide that will help with any wire testing that you may need to do once you complete this repair:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Please run through these diagrams and let me know if you have other questions. Thanks
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Monday, November 22nd, 2021 AT 4:13 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for the info. Will check it out. ASAP.
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Monday, November 22nd, 2021 AT 7:27 PM
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Actually, think I have these diagrams saved already. Just short an entire pigtail from GMC. GMC control module had two pigtails while 2004 Cheverolet only has the one.
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Monday, November 22nd, 2021 AT 7:32 PM
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Okay. I am attaching the connector views of the actuator on the case which should help with this.

First attachment is the 2004 Chevrolet. The next two are for the GMC. Just looking at this, the issue you are going to have is the GMC runs off an 8-volt system and the Chevrolet has a 5-volt.

I am not sure there is a way to change this so I would see if the actuator from the old transfer case fits the Chevrolet so that you can keep the control side of it the same.
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2021 AT 7:53 AM
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Thanks for the pics. Yes, that's the problem I am having exactly. Encoder motor splines are different unfortunately. Was hoping to swap the Encoder motor from the start which sure would have made life easy. Was hoping to just figure out if I could splice into this 2004 Chevrolet Encoder with existing GMC wiring. It's a tricky job. Didn't want to replace transfer case as all came in one unit. Could a guy splice the wires together somehow as well as knocking the voltage down as well? Someone out there must have done this swap before.
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2021 AT 9:25 AM
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If this were anything other, than a Chevyrolet/GMC I would say it most likely had not been done but it seems like everything has been tried on these trucks, so I am sure someone has tried this.

The unfortunate thing, I am not sure how it would work since the 5-volt reference on the Chevy truck is supplied for a specific reason. It sends 5 volts there and then based on the return signal which is going to be between 0-5 volts, it tells the control module what position it is in.

Basically, if it sends 2 volts back to then that means it is in one position, if it sends 4 volts back then it is in a different position.

So even if you use resistors and get the 8 volts down to 5, the signals returns are most likely not going to match up between the 8- and 5-volts systems.

Basically, if you have a control module that is expecting the 8-volt system, and you knock it down to 5-volt then it will not recognize it. So, you would need to change the control module as well but that is going to introduce communication issues with the rest of the truck.

I think this is one of those cans full of worms.

If you are willing to try it then we can try and walk through it, but I just want, you to have that understanding prior.

It may be worth while trying to find a conversion kit. I did some searches and didn't find anything. I will put some feelers out to some Chevrolet guys I know and see if they know anything.
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2021 AT 12:39 PM
Tiny
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Yes, I see what you're saying and that makes complete sense.
If theoretically a guy could wire it in. Can it be flashed to recognize the updated transfer case? I guess that question is moot right now.
I guess worst case scenario a GMC transfer case. That should just fix the entire issue, right? You are being incredibly helpful.
I'm a body and paint guy so wrenching not my strongest skills.
The info is already helping me out.
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2021 AT 4:30 PM
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Funny. We should be neighbors. I will not touch body and paint so we could work on each other's stuff.

Yes. A transfer case would fix it but I have not looked at the actuator on these vehicles in a while, but it may be worth trying to just change the encoder gear. You will have to remove the snap ring, but it should come out.

Then if you can put the GMC encoder with the Chevy gear in it so that it splines into the transfer case but also plugs in and operates with the GMC commands, you should be able to get it working.

As for programming it to operate the Chevrolet set up, that will not work either. Unfortunately, you will not be able to flash the module with the other software so you would have to replace the control module but that again creates communication issues with the rest of the existing modules.

Unfortunately, these two trucks use practically identical parts, but they operate off different control systems. So, it is like they speak different languages so you can change all the parts, but they don't know how to talk to each other.
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2021 AT 8:31 PM
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Haha. Yes, neighbors would work great man.
The problem with encoder is that spline style on the Chevrolet as opposed to a rectangular rounded unit on the GMC. Are you saying a guy can change that spline piece out? I did take the encoder motor apart. (Not as hard as people make out) but didn't see a way to change out the actual spline.
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Wednesday, November 24th, 2021 AT 8:55 AM
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Okay. That is what I am not sure about. However, if you can remove the gear/splines and swap them then that will solve the issue. Basically, you can use the GMC actuator with the Chevrolet splines so that it connects to the Chevrolet transfer case.

I am not saying that this is possible, but it is the only chance I see at making this work. At least it is the only one I can think of.
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Wednesday, November 24th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM

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