Engine cylinder misfire?

Tiny
MHPAUTOS
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Hi there,

Remove all the spark plugs, and earth the coil lead, with a helper, place you finger over No 1 plug hole (front plug) get your helper to crank the engine, just a key on and off type crank, just enough to turn the engine a little, do this until you feel pressure building up on your finger, this will be the piston starting to compress the air in the cylinder, now with the key off, turn the engine by hand, ( this should be easy with no plugs) till the timing mark on the pulley reaches "0" on the timing scale, this will be TDC No 1.

Mark (mhpautos)
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:33 AM (Merged)
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JADE4
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I have a check engine light flashing. I had it checked and it came up misfiring in cylinders 2, 5, and 6. I changed out the plugs and the plug wires.(Changed the wires one at a time). The light is still flashing and had it checked and still comes up the same. Is there some way to check why it is doing it without bringing the car into a shop. Strapped for cash at the moment. Thanks for any help By the way the car has 155,000 miles on it
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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By the way, the diagnostic also said that the ignition coil was faulty. Will that make cylanders 2, 5, and 6 missfire? Sorry, don't know much about cars. Thanks for any help
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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I can usually go to a local parts store and have them hook up the computer to check the engine light code. They can even reset it to see if it goes away. Autozone does this at no charge.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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JUSTINLEE827
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Hi my name's Justin, I was sitting at the store the other day with my vehicle in park, so I started reving up the egine to about 3500-4000 rpms, it ran smoothly to about 3000 rpms but after that it started skipping or chugging. And i've noticed it would do that when at a higher rate of speed as well. I also had another question, when my car is idling the rpms will see saw between 500 rpms and 1000 rpms, but in that time the lights will get brighter when I mash the throttle and they get dimmer when I let off of the throttle, any answer would be most appreciated. Justin
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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If no load on engine you should not be raising the RPM that high as you may cause an internal engine failure
and to prevent that from happening the PCM will shut off injectors to limit the RPM
Reason for it cutting out
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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JJOHNSON65775
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1996 Mercury Sable 1 2 3 misfire what could it be I have replace the coil wires and plugs. Please help.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
CARADIODOC
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Defective injector or burned valve. A cylinder leakage test can identify if a valve is not sealing.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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I just put in new injector and that is not it and the the cylinder are good. Now what to do.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Are you saying three different cylinders are misfiring? If so, look for something they have in common. Low fuel pressure is one thing. If you have the dual overhead camshafts, check for a jumped timing belt.

Injectors should be replaced in matched sets so they flow the same amount of fuel. If only one or two are replaced, some cylinders will always run a little lean. The oxygen sensors will detect the unburned oxygen in the exhaust and the Engine Computer will command more fuel from all of the injectors.

If there's a leak in the fresh air tube between the mass air flow sensor and the throttle body, some unmeasured air will get in and there won't be any fuel to go with it. That can result in a lean mixture misfire.

The next thing would be to connect a scanner that displays live sensor data so you can see what the Engine Computer is seeing. That will provide some insight as to whether the computer is commanding the wrong amount of fuel based on an incorrect sensor value, or whether the engine is misfiring in spite of correct sensor values. It takes an experienced mechanic to interpret the sensor readings.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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KEITHINKINGNC
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When I crank the car the engine sounds like its skipping. All plugs, wires, rotary cap etc have been checked. It has a NEW gas filter. I have to pump the pedal at the right time constantly to keep it running. The scanner will not read any codes from it. What is wrong with it?
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Have you checked fuel pump pressure? Also, have you checked for vacuum leaks?
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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Kith, first, thanks for the positive feed back back. It's appreciated. Second, let me know what you find.

Joe
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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I will, thank you. I will let you know the first of the week. Thanks.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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EPERRY
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I have a 96 mercury sable that is missing when i'm stoped the engine light is on but the light will start to blink on and off then she will miss even when i'm moving and it seems that she starts to get to much gas and looses all power I had it in the grage but there are too many code to know where to start from will I have to replace all the parts the grage listed?
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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DYABALLIKL
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The first thing you should check in a situation like this is your spark plugs, those can tell you a whole lot about what's going on in the engine.

Your story does remind me of one I read on the main page, though. The pros said to that case that it was probably a faulty fuel pump, yours may be related, but still, start simple, with the plugs.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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MADDOG75
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I have a 01 Sable with a code that indicates a misfire in cyl #5 I have tried wires, plugs and coil but nothing helps, do your have any other suggestions?
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:35 AM (Merged)
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Ive been having some troubles with mine misfiring as well and but its in more then 1 cylinder. With my experience im now in search for a catalytic converter. Im no expert but a lil something helps
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:35 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I had the converter replaced a few months back due to the engine light blinking and very poor exceleration and idle, I have the car at the dealer right now and they are running alot tests Ill check back in when I know what they say.
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:36 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Two tests you haven't done. Compression test, and test of the fuel injector at #5! Let me know what you come up with!
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Thursday, October 22nd, 2020 AT 11:36 AM (Merged)

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