Shakes and makes a grinding noise

Tiny
CAJUNLAND504
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  • 1998 JEEP CHEROKEE
  • V8
  • AWD
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  • 112,000 MILES
I have a jeep grand cherokee limited 5.2L V8, I have a problem. When I turn real slow like to get into a parking lot or pull out of one, my jeep shakes and makes a grinding noise when I turn the wheel either left or right. I took it to a mechanic and they replaced my drivers side axle shaft.1 day later its doing the same thing. So sense they fixed the wrong thing, are they obligated to fix the right problem without charging me again? Plus, I just wish I knew what was causing the problem! Thanks.
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Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010 AT 11:42 PM

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Tiny
BLACKOP555
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If thats what they diagnosed and it didnt fix it then yes they are obligated to atleast not charge a new diagnostic fee and maybe refund for that job.

i would be checking wheel bearings.

If the axle shaft and hub bearing are being removed in order to service another component, the axle shaft and hub bearing can be removed as an assembly.

REMOVAL
1. Raise and support the vehicle.
2. Remove the wheel and tire assembly.
3. Remove the brake caliper and rotor.
4. Remove ABS wheel speed sensor, if necessary.
5. Remove the cotter pin, nut retainer, and axle hub nut, if necessary.
6. Remove the hub to knuckle bolts.
7. Remove the hub from the steering knuckle and axle shaft, if necessary.
8. Remove hub bearing and axle shaft assembly, or axle shaft from axle. Avoid
damaging the axle shaft oil seals in the axle housing.
9. Remove the brake rotor shield from the hub bearing or knuckle.

INSTALLATION
1. Thoroughly clean the axle shaft and apply a thin film of Mopar Wheel Bearing Grease, or equivalent, to the shaft splines, seal contact surface, and hub bore.
2. Install the brake rotor shield to the knuckle.
3. Install the hub bearing and axle shaft assembly, or axle shaft, into the housing and differential side gears. Avoid damaging the axle shaft oil seals in the axle housing.
4. Install the hub bearing, if necessary.
5. Install the hub to knuckle bolts and tighten to 102 Nm (75 ft. lbs.) torque.
6. Install the hub washer and nut, if necessary tighten the hub nut to 237 Nm (175 ft. lbs.) torque. Install the nut retainer and a new cotter pin.
7. Install ABS wheel speed sensor, if necessary.
8. Install the brake rotor and caliper.
9. Install the wheel and tire assembly
10. Remove support and lower the vehicle.

Read this guide first, it will help

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/bearing-hub-replacement

Corresponding pictures are attached below
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Friday, June 25th, 2010 AT 12:14 PM
Tiny
PORTHOS1
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I have had talked to a tech on here before and still have the same issue. I have a grinding or rubbing noise in rear brakes. I have narrowed it down to parking brakes. I replaced calipers, discs, rotors, parking brake shoes and hardware. Still grinding. The reason I say parking brakes is when I remove them and just put back rotors and spin it. No noise. I have even went back to the auto parts place thinking my shoes for the parking where wrong. There not. I even tried mixing them up. Like the shoes were left or right. Still the same results. Please help. One thing to note here that might help it made same noise before brakes were changed. But worse.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have run into problems with some aftermarket parking brake shoes. Might be worth trying oem or at least picking up another set and then going to the dealer to compare them.

I have also had problems with some of the less expensive brake parts and ended up having to go to the premium ones that I normally use.

Might want to check the lateral runout and see if the axle may be bent.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
PORTHOS1
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I will try to see if I was giving wrong parking brakes shoes. The only question is that the noise I hear now is the noise I heard before I did any brake repair. Now with that said, I have wondered if it wasnt the brakes but I have removed the parking brakes shoes and put the wheel on and problem solved. Which leads me to the question. Could the parking brake be stuck on a little. The reason I ask is that the shoes that were on it before were welded on to the rotor and everything was so rusted. And when the shoes are in place as new its like the shoes need to be adjusted down but cant. Because they are as small as the adjustment screw will go. Just a thought.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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OR the linings are too thick. That was they problem I had.A few times. The brand I got.(I think it was Napa) were too thick. The problem was more severe in that I couldn't get the rotor back on.

However if the same noise was there before, Than I would go back to checking the lateral runout to see if the axle shaft is bent and causing oblong movement of the hub.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
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I got your response about it being the shafts. Makes total sense. I just woke up to tell you that after at least 10 hours of thought. When I put on the parking brake shoes and hook up all the hardware and put on the adjustment screw and makes the brake shoes be out more than the top part. I know this to be true cause there is kinda of a little circle on the cover that surrounds the rotor when installed. And If I remove the screw and let the shoes go back in. No noise. So could I have maybe the wrong rotors?

The noise before this all happen was worse. But what I found would make sense for it to be noisy then. The inner shoes were broken and practically welded to the rotors. And all the parts were rusty. Rotors were past shot. I replace all but its just that oval looking brakes shoes. It has to be something simple.

I do heating and air for a living and when its bad you know it but when it seems easy it knaws the crap out of ya.

I appreciate your help. I know I wrote alot but just want to sleep. Let me know your thoughts.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have a 98 grand cherokee 5.9L with 104,000 miles the problems begin when I travel above 55 mph the wheel will start to shake really bad every once in a while this is one problem

the other is after slowing down to a stop after going above 60 mph than starting to go it make a grinding noise in the back right wheel well almost like the tire is rubbing in the well but its not

and I also cant shift from 4h to 4 lo it makes an awful grindin noise when going in to 4 lo and when it is in 4lo it doesnt move I here alot of these problems may be the transfer case any help?
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
MERLIN2021
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Check the right rear rotor and see if the pads are wiped out back there.
As far as the transfer case. Check linkage, and oil levels.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Did you re-adjust the cable?


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/30961_cher_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/30961_che1_1.jpg

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
PORTHOS1
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Adjusted the cable. Same problem. I am just figuring that it must be rear end or axle. The noise is there when I am in neutral or in gear. Normal speeds you hear it. You dont hear outside the vehicle as it goes. It doesnt stay the same pitch. It just makes this noise like when you have a low tire or flat. Or the shoe in the dryer. Totally lost.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Well if you removed the adjuster and the noise stops, then it has to be a shoe/drum, contact is what I see with this.

One thought is to mist some flat black paint over the shoes, put it together, run it, pull it apart and look for where paint rubbed off. After you resolve it, sand off the light coat of paint.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JEREMYDHOLMES
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Noises problem
1998 Jeep Cherokee 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Manual

1998 jeep cherokee 4x4 when I take off fast a grinding noise comes from the front or mid section. This started when I was off roading in 4x4 It also feels like it is kinda stuck in 4x4
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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You might of missed my response. I adjusted the brake cable and it made no difference. I had my wife drive me around while I sat in the back and listen. The noise is there around 10mph and above. I have put the whole vehicle on jack stands and plan on running it in gear so maybe I can pinpoint it. I even dumped out the rear gear oil and rechanged it. Any clues?
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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First, you need to determine if it is stuck in 4wd. It needs lifted (Entire Vehicle) started and placed in gear to see if all 4 wheel turn. Or you could see if it spins in gravel if you don't have access to a lift.

Next, if you only hear the grinding on accelleration, my first guess is the output shaft bearing on the transfer case (rear).

Let me know what you find.
Joe
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Doesn't this suggest a contact between the shoes and something. Rotor?
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
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RED91XJ
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I am experiencing a grinding noise while turning left. The noise seems to be coming from the rear of the vehicle, and I can feel a sort of vibration from the rear center of the vehicle when this happens. It is most pronounced while making left turns, but occasionally happens while driving at low speeds of 15-25mph down bumpy roads. I had a mechanic check it out, and was told it might be the transfer case. Are there any other components to check such as u-joints, parking brake, etc? By the way, this noise happens when I am in any of the 2wd or 4wd settings.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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Hello and thanks for donating

Grinding noises can come in many forms and caused by many different things which makes diagnosing it, especially without being in person, very difficult. If you are certain it is coming from the rear of the vehicle then inspect very closely the wheel bearings, suspension components and brake components of the rear. It could be as easy as a loose brake shield or exhaust shield. You can raise the rear of vehicle up and check for bad wheel bearings by feeling for play in the wheels. Also how are the tires wearing? Are they wearing evenly or in certain spots, quicker than normal etc?
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BENNYB
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I have a 99' Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 and when im in motion I hear a high pitch scratching in the front driver tire area. Then when I stop it sounds like its grinding followed by clicking. I took it in and the mechanics say I have plenty of pad but don't know what it is. Any ideas? Thanks
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JNOVACK
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Try checking the abs or even the front hub bearing the hub bearing will make that noise
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