Intermittent starting issues after being driven?

Tiny
JBIRD01
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  • 2003 NISSAN PATHFINDER
  • 3.4L
  • V6
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 160,000 MILES
This one has been driving me nuts. It's a 2003 like mentioned, pretty decent shape, new good battery, starter is pretty new, no real issues, also we are in a hot and coastal climate that has a lot of salt in the air. If I start it after not driving it for some hours, she starts like a champ; easy and butter on first try. Runs well, regular rpms, no rough idling, no bad symptoms. Here's where it gets funny; I've found that after I drive it for a little bit (typically over 15mins) and turn it off/park. It will start up right away just like the first start of the day - easy. I've noticed that if I leave it for a few minutes (like turning it off and running into a grocery store), that most of the time; it won't start right back up. The battery still has good voltage, the starter tries, but it doesn't turn over for some time (sometimes up to 30-40 minutes of sitting there and waiting), but then it comes back to life and starts. The only other thing I can add is that I noticed when trying to turn it over, sometimes it makes some strange noises in the exhaust like a backfire and sometimes there is a bit of a noise in the engine which kind of sounds like a thud. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Wednesday, January 29th, 2025 AT 11:46 AM

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Tiny
KEN L
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I short video of the noise will help, from what I am reading the engine has a hard time cranking is this correct? I other words while cranking you hear these noises? Is there a check engine light on? We need more information to go int he correct direction on fixing the issue. In the meantime here is a guide that can help:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-cranks-excessively-before-starting

Please upload videos in your response of any problems so we can see what to help you with or give us more information, is this an engine running or engine cranking problem?
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Wednesday, January 29th, 2025 AT 4:37 PM
Tiny
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Hi Ken and thanks for the reply and the help. Sorry it took so long to get back to you - I was out of town helping the family and I was finally able to get some videos showing what's going on. The fuel pump is new, cables/distributor too, fuses all seem to be intact. These are just starting issues, and they usually happen erratically after being driven for 30+minutes in the heat (where we are it's always hot and humid), so one day it happens and the next in similar situations - it doesn't. Which is really frustrating. Usually on first start of the day, she starts like butter, sounds good and strong, RPMs around 7-800 and no rough idling. When she's running, she has good power and nothing strange happening. Service engine light has been on for some time and I think it may be related to time for an oil change, but I'm not 100 percent sure because I couldn't find good instructions on how to clear it. I uploaded 2 videos ; the first is what it looks like usually when it isn't starting, and the second video is what usually happens after we give the vehicle anywhere between 30 mins to1 hr to sit for a while and she starts again. You should be able to hear the thuds on it and sometimes they are louder than others. Thanks again
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Wednesday, April 9th, 2025 AT 12:51 PM
Tiny
KEN L
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Oh man!, You are right, the engine is having a hard time starting, and then the hard spot is not normal, to me it seems like the crankshaft angle sensor is going out, do me a favor and when the engine start normally see if the tach moves, I noticed it does not in the video. When this sensor goes out it can cause no or erratic spark which will cause the ginch in the cranking. I know "ginch" is not a word technically, but it what we called it in the shop. Here is the location of the sensor. You might want to try running the codes and also, after this episode and the engine does start is there black smoke coming from the exhaust pipe at start up?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

FYI, if the crankshaft sensor is bad it may not leave a code but if there are codes stored, we should know. Check out the images (below). Let us know how it goes.

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Friday, April 11th, 2025 AT 9:18 AM

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