Water leak drivers side floor

Tiny
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My driver side floor gets wet when it rains or when the car is washed. It is a small area closest to the left foot rest on the drivers side of the car. I would like to know if there are any TSB's that cover this problem. If there are no TSB's where are the critical seems to check or other places that water may be leaking in that I should check to see if they need to be sealed?

Thanks for the help
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Monday, January 12th, 2009 AT 9:17 AM

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Tiny
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Only have a tsb for a leak in the truck. Other then that no. I would get some mild soapy water in a water bottle and turn the blower motor on high and shut the doors with the window's up and spray around the door and the windshield and such and look for bubbles. The bubbles will show the leak when you hit it with a garden hose.
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Monday, January 12th, 2009 AT 9:56 AM
Tiny
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So you think that the leak is in from the door or the windshield?

How does the blower motor(i guess you mean fan) affect what is coming into the car?

What do you use to spray the soapy water with, a spray bottle?

Please explain the theory what we are testing here?
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Monday, January 12th, 2009 AT 10:57 AM
Tiny
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Ok it works like this. You are using the blower motor to create air pressure so that where the leak is the air will try to come out. So with a spray bottle of mild soapy water it will show that leak by making bubbles. Hope this helps. Let me know what you find.
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Tuesday, January 13th, 2009 AT 10:29 AM
Tiny
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All, just getting back to you about the leak problem.

Try1:
I tried your suggested method and didn't find any bubbles around any areas that the water could be leaking into.

Try 2:
I lifted the car and looked at all the seams to see if there could be anything leaking in there. Anyplace that looked like a possibility I put sealed up with silicon. I used a fan to dry the carpet completely to see if it would get wet again. After the next snow storm it was just as wet as ever.

Try3:
After try 2 didn't work, I ended up taking up the floor siding panels, the foot rest and then took up the carpet. The carpet is still quite wet. There is a body plug under the carpet, which I put silicon on and replaced and a plug just above the foot rest, which I siliconed and replaced. I can't see any signs of where the water could be leaking in cracks.

I did find some sort of what looks like an air duct that comes from the driver side of the shift console and ends up sitting flat on the floor and continues under the driver seat. There is some residual water that is under it - I'm not sure if this just a convenient place to sit or if this could be where the leak is coming from?

Do you know what this black duct is? Could it be causing the leaking of water/condensation? How would I test this?

Any other ideas?

Thanks
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Monday, February 2nd, 2009 AT 7:06 PM
Tiny
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Here is a picture of the duct that I am talking about.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/300548_IMG_1754_2.jpg

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Monday, February 2nd, 2009 AT 7:15 PM
Tiny
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I had the same problem and this was the fix for me. Jack up the car and remove the front tire on the driver's side. Then partially remove the wheel well shield facing the wet floor. Look up and you should see two holes where cables/wires can go through. Check to make sure the plugs are in place and tight. If not use silicone to fill. When the water runs down after being collected from around the windshield wipers above it runs right over these holes.
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Saturday, June 2nd, 2012 AT 2:45 PM
Tiny
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I am still thinking that the windshield may be the leak. If the primer put down for the windshield glue reacts with the paint then the paint will lift and thus leak there. I didn't ask if you had a sun roof.
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Tuesday, June 19th, 2012 AT 4:46 PM
Tiny
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Hi. 2005 Honda Civic EX. I had water on driver side floor every time it rained. Water drops always inside the door frame and seemed to be coming from the roof and running down. After cleaning out 4 sunroof vents (not clogged) still water came in. After much searching I took off the ditch molding on the top driver side of the car because it seemed the water was coming from that area or the top of the windshield. About 3 inches from the windshield, in the welded ditch on the side of the roof, there was a hairline opening about a 1/2 inch long. Had to use my magnifying goggles and a strong light to see it. I put some silicone in there and pressed it in with my finger. Leak is gone. I credit my guardian angel with helping me find this. Hope this helps someone.
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Wednesday, August 19th, 2015 AT 7:21 PM
Tiny
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I have water on the floor on the drivers side of my car.I've taken the seats out of the car and the wet carpet, then I sprayed the car with water to see if I can see any water coming in the car but no luck. Can you help me with this problem.
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:24 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi there,

have the A/C drain tube checked, it may be blocked or dislodged and this is causing the water problem.

Mark (mhpautos)
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:24 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have had a puddle on the driver's side of my car for quite awhile.

The mechanic told me that the leak was in the cowl. He asked if I'd ever been in an accident and I had been. Someone had run into the driver's side door.

The mechanic told me that was the auto body shop's fault. They hadn't sealed the seam well enough. (Btw, my car has not been in any other major accidents. Just some back bumper stuff)

I took the car back to the auto body shop. They were willing to repair the problem (they said). 2 weeks later I got a call that the problem could never have been caused by them but they sealed the seam anyway.

Long story shorter, problem still not fixed. They were not honest with me when I first brought my car in so I have to wonder if they even did the work.

I don't know whether to pursue this legally; to get it fixed through some other means or to just let go of the car.

What do you think? Do you think there could be another explanation and that they aren't at fault? The mechanic who originally ckd out my7 car said that without this water leak problem, the car was in excellent condition.

Thanks!
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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First of all I am confused. This isn't a boat "They hadn't sealed the seam well enough". This is a vehicle and I don't believe there are any body seams on that car that holds water or coolant, it is either the radiator or it is a heater core inside the vehicle take it to a competent shop and have them tell you what is wrong with the car and then bring me word
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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First of all, you're wonderful for taking time to answer the question.

Apparently, the water is not coming through from any part of the car that holds water. It's water from rain etc. That seeps in because the seam came apart in that area. The mechanic said it was the cowl and the auto body guy who fixed my car after my accident didn't fix it well enough.

Here's my problem. If I take it to a shop and keep spending money on something that isn't getting fixed, it's just wasted money. I'm wondering if I can hold onto this car for another year or just let it go sooner. So I was hoping that someone had an idea before I started doing that. But I do appreciate your feedback.
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Greetings: it is difficult to understand your position due to translation errors in your story, I am trying to read between the lines to see how I can help you. If I understand you correctly that the vehicle was an accident, the body shop did not properly repair it, and so now it's leaking water? If that is the case and you paid the body shop to repair your vehicle I would return it to the body shop who repaired your vehicle and tell them I thought your complaint, and that you already paid them for the repair and that the repair was improperly done. There's only two places where water can come in, #1 would be the front windshield seal is leaking #2 the fresh air intake duct which supplies air inside the vehicle which is located below the windshield wipers on the right side.
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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You are the best for trying!

I'm sorry I was unclear, let me try to be clearer.

I took my car to a mechanic because I was getting a huge water leak on the driver's side.

The mechanic, after extensive search told me that the water was coming in through the cowel. Now, I am not a car person, so he explained it by asking. Were you ever in an accident?

I told him I was. Someone ran into the driver's side door.

He told me that the water was coming in through a seam in the cowel. AND it all made sense because, according to the mechanic the auto body guy did shoddy work in fixing the car after the accident and that resulted in a bad seam.

I brought the car back to the auto body shop that had done the work ( the work was done about 3 years ago)

the auto body shop said he would refix the problem. Two weeks later, he called me and said it was fixed. He told me that the problem was in the seam and it wasn't due to his original body work fix.

(I called back the mechanic to ask him if that could be true. Could it be that the problem was not the auto body guy's fault. The mechanic said. It was most probably the auto body guy's bad repair. I also have to say that I caught this auto body guy in so many lies in my dealing with him, I would say that his word was suspect.)

long story getting to the end, the auto body guy probably didn't fix the problem cause I am still getting major leak. I would not be surprised if he just told me he fixed it but let the car sit there for the weeks.

Is this a clearer account? Again, thanks!
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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That was very good thank you, now I have some questions of my own, why did it take three years to start leaking? He could have repaired it inappropriate and in time it started to leak, the way the body guy acted you cannot blame him the repair is three years old I don't think I could remember much after three years especially after working on hundreds of vehicles. What I would do if I was you go to a different body shop have them look at it get a second opinion and see what really happened if it was the first body shop's fault or due to three years of driving the vehicle if the repair it just failed or if the repair now is getting worse and needs a tuneup. At any rate if it is in fact the body shop's fall and they cannot fix it correctly I would talk to my insurance company tell them the problem and see what they tell you.
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Again, thank you so much.

It didn't take that long. I'd always smelled this moldy smell, so much so that I had the a/c and other things checked.

Never found what it was.

In June of this past year, a car hit my bumper (my car was parked) and it was after that that the water came in like crazy. Diff mechanics and auto body shop guys had different opinions. Some said that bang could never have made the problem worse. Others said that with the way cars are constructed, the bump could have added an energy that split the seam even more.

So, again, the mechanic said the problem was the cowel. The body shop I took it back too was really nice, but I have to tell you, I don't believe he did the work. He said he did. He said it wasn't from his original fix and that he was being nice for fixing it for me, but he never did the work. And I question it because when I originally took the car to him, he lied about having done work he didn't do and I had to bring the insurance company into it.

But your suggestion is really a good one. The mechanic hinted that to fix the problem would be more than the car was worth, so I never even figured to go to a body shop to see what they would think.

Thank you again for spending so much time on this! Really appreciate your help!
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Wednesday, May 1st, 2019 AT 1:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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There is a 25mm rubber body plug located on the bottom side of the steel chassis frame member just behind each front tire. On the right side we recently discovered that the plug was missing when we tried to troubleshoot why the passenger floor was (very) wet. When driving in the rain, it appears as though water can accumulate inside the member during a rainstorm and eventually leak into the interior. We also see that the water damage extends all the way back to the trunk and is comming up from underneath. Does my diagnosis make sense, and if so how can I dry it out? Where can I go on the internet to determine whether or not my model car has a documented history of problems with water leaking into the interior?
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Saturday, June 1st, 2019 AT 7:14 PM (Merged)
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MERLIN2021
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There is a Tech Bulletin on your year as follows:

WATER LEAKS INTO THE TRUNK FROM A BODY SEAM
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Reference Number(s): 03-067, Date of Issue: February 18, 2005
HONDA:2001-2005 Civic CATEGORY:Body APPLIES TO: 2001-04 Civic 2-Door and 4-Door - ALL; 2005 Civic 2-Door - From VIN 1HGEM2...5L000001 thru 1HGEM2...5L030136; 2005 Civic 4-Door - ALL
Superceded Bulletin(s): 03-067, Date of Issue: September 23, 2003 Related Ref Number(s): 03-067

ARTICLE BEGINNING
SYMPTOM
NOTE: Supersedes 03-067, dated September 23, 2003
Water in the trunk.
PROBABLE CAUSE
Lack of sealer at various seams.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Apply 3M Ultra Pro Seam Sealer to the affected seam(s).
PARTS INFORMATION
3M Ultra Pro Seam Sealer: 3M P/N 051135-08302
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty : The normal warranty applies.
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION OP# Description FRT 857012 Remove the trunk side trim panel and trunk floor, then leak test A Repair procedure A 0.2 B Repair procedure B 0.2 C Repair procedure C 0.4 D Leak test to check the repair 0.2 0.6


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Saturday, June 1st, 2019 AT 7:14 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Merlin2021:
Thanks for your answer, but I am still at a loss about the water on my front passenger floor, and that was my primary concern. How could the water have gotten there in the first place, I am asking?

I had the cabin air filter replaced on the assumption that the AC box might be leaking through its seams if leaf litter was clogging the drain. But I doubt that this would be the problem at this time of year.

The Honda dealer who noticed that the body plug was missing on the right side has put a temporary plug into the 25mm hole, and I have been using newspaper to absorb the water in the soaked carpeting.

If water could come off my right front tire during a heavy rain while I am driving, it could conceivably pass right into the frame member. But how would it get from there into the front floor carpeting. Isn't the body sealed?

Can I have an opinion on this?
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