1998 Honda Civic Civic starts, then it dies

Tiny
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  • 1998 HONDA CIVIC
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  • 182,000 MILES
Hi there!

About car - Honda CIVIC 1998. Year
Motor code D15Z6 1.5i LS v-tec
sedan (it's some kind of european variant)

Problems - it cranks and starts and then it dies

Checked - injectores all are 10-13 ohms. And also IACV + cleaned

Replaced - ignition coil, (ICM) ignition control module, ignition switch wiring harness,

Thought about replacing main relay, but I hear all the clicks, and I hear fuel pump whirling.

And the funny thing is that the check engine light (MIL) comes out after click and two seconds, as usually starting car.

Change ECM?( A loooot of money, maybe MAP sensor?)

Any IDEAS?

will apprecciate.
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Friday, March 6th, 2009 AT 4:13 AM

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Tiny
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Hi SNICKERLV,

I got stumped with by question.

CEL comes on for 2 seconds and goes off or comes on only after the 2 seconds?

When engine stalled, would you be able to restart and does it start each time and stalled?

Were the dash lights showing when engine stalled?
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Friday, March 6th, 2009 AT 8:41 AM
Tiny
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Yes it stalled and then I changeed the ICM(ignition control moduke) and ignition coil, then car was able to start, but for a second, when realeased key it died. Then I figured out, that it maybe is ignition switch wiring harness, changed it to to new, but still no results.

I don't remember what dashboard looked like, when it stalled. I think all black and that's all.

No I was no able to restart the car.

I have a headache already from it :(
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Friday, March 6th, 2009 AT 10:01 AM
Tiny
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When car could not be started, you need to find out what is missing, fuel, sparks etc. Check out the following links and see if it is of any help.

http://www.2carpros.com/kpages/first_things.htm

Did you replace with new or used ignition switch? If dash lights , etc, charge indicator, Check Engine Light, oil indicator etc are not showing when engine stalled and could not be started, the ignition switch is bad or power supply is missing
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Friday, March 6th, 2009 AT 10:17 AM
Tiny
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I replaced only with new parts, not used, new (ICM), and new ignition coil. And new ignition switch wiring harness.

The car can start all time, but for a second, its simply dies.

When engine dies/stalls all indicators are shown, oil, SRS, ABS etc.

Tomorrow I will upload a video on youtube, and place link here, if it's possible. :(
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Friday, March 6th, 2009 AT 11:10 AM
Tiny
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The PGM-FI main relay is known to intermittently fails and cause non starting.

It would restart after waiting a while. If you are able to remove the PGM-FI main relay, check the circuit board, resolder all the joints and retry.
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Saturday, March 7th, 2009 AT 6:08 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for helping me.

Main relay allready resolded week ago.

I think I found the problem!

Todey removed IAC(idle air control) valve, and spray in it carburator cleaner.

Then restarted the car it started, but very poor idling almost at 0 rpm, when I hit the gas pedal stalled/stoped. And I hear that air intake system does not suck in more air when accelerating.

And then sudenly after 1-3 minutes the rpm hits 1000, but it has erratic idling.

Car starts normal when it is warm, but after 2-4hours car starts the same:
1)poor idling almost 0 rpm
2)sucks no air when accelerating
3) after 1-3 minutes starts idling at 1000-1500rpm
4)and has errating idling

Then what should I do? Clean the IAC valve more or just replace it, and why it have problem when cold?

Can you help me please?
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Saturday, March 7th, 2009 AT 11:32 AM
Tiny
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Most probably the IAC valve is stuck and when starting from col, it is not allowing more air to go into intake to increase the rpm.

You should try cleaning the IAC again and might need to remove it to be able to clean it thoroughly.
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Saturday, March 7th, 2009 AT 1:06 PM
Tiny
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Ok tomorrow wil try to clean the valve.
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