Goodyear Wrangler ST vs other tires

Tiny
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Hello everybody and thank you in advance
I am trying to decide between these three tires

https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/wrangler-st

https://simpletire.com/eldorado-p225-75r16-etx75-tires

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/laufenn-x-fit-ht#

So obviously Goodyear is a great brand, but I've read multiple reviews saying they are surprisingly horrible in the snow! Multiple reviews said that, that scares me because I live in an area with harsh winters. I can't be sliding around, I need good wet traction. I also see reviews that say they are fine in the snow, I don't know what to believe.

As far as the last two, they are obviously a little bit cheaper but not much when you count for separate installation charges. Are Eldorado and Laufenn good tires? Im struggling to find any honest reviews about them, are they good in the snow?

Just need some professional input, thank you!

Cas
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2019 AT 11:13 AM

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Tiny
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Hello,

If I were going to go buy tires for your vehicle I would get BF Goodrich All Terrain TA's and wouldn't think twice about it. Period. As far as the other tires, I have had good luck with off brand tires. A lot of the time they are manufactured by a bigger name tire manufacturer under a licensing agreement or something like that. The one recommendation I would make if you choose to go this way, is get the tire with the better mileage warranty, but, like I said earlier, in my opinion, you can't beat BF Goodrich All Terrain TA's when it comes to truck tires. I hope this helps.
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Tuesday, December 3rd, 2019 AT 12:11 PM
Tiny
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Yea, I see they running at $150.00 a tire. Im 19, I don't have that kind of money. The thing with the Goodyear tires is they're holding a $100.00 off promotion right now. The other ones are affordable as is, even with the installation charge at Big O. So out of the ones I mentioned, are Goodyear, Laufenn, Eldorado tired good in the snow? I live in harsh winter area, and need to make sure I will be safe. Thank you, I am searching for the tires you mentioned at affordable prices but so far no luck.
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Tuesday, December 3rd, 2019 AT 4:21 PM
Tiny
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Hello again,

I've had 4 wheel drive trucks over the years, but my real passion is muscle cars. Having said this I've noticed that Goodyears are exceptional tires for gripping, but they have a softer rubber compound that doesn't lend itself to long tread life. But for grip, like in the snow, I would go with the Goodyears.

Thanks,
Alex
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Tuesday, December 3rd, 2019 AT 5:27 PM
Tiny
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Thank you, but again I have seen so many negative reviews for these Goodyear tires in the snow, I mean countless. Dozens of negative reviews for them, I can't bring myself to get them. But thank you!
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Tuesday, December 3rd, 2019 AT 5:28 PM
Tiny
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Goodyear makes good tires, the issue is the tread pattern and compound. A tire that is going to be good in snow will have a compound that doesn't get stiff and a tread pattern that self cleans and is broken of with a lot of horizontal siping. The Wrangler ST is not a snow tire, it is an all season touring design. The tread pattern is more like an older summer tread. Will they work in snow? Maybe but not very well. Laufenn is made by Hankook. The tread pattern on the ones you selected is not a snow type tread either. Again they may work in snow but not as well.
Out of the three you list the Eldorado has the closest thing to a snow tread pattern and it's not that great.

The first image is a Firestone Winterforce2 snow, they run about $100.00 a tire at Wal Mart. They are a true snow tire however. The catch to that is you do not want to run them all year as the soft compound doesn't like heat and will wear out very fast.
Second is a General Altimax from the same store. They are also a true snow for about $105.00

As far as price goes, you are riding in a vehicle at speed on 4 contact patches roughly the size of your hand. They have to move forward, turn and stop as needed. My suggestion would be to get a set of 4 true snows mounted on the rims you have. Then visit a salvage yard and get 4 replacement rims and before summer arrives get something like the tires you have posted above mounted on those. That way you have the better tires for both applications. Or if the current tires are good get the rims and mount the snows on them.
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Friday, December 6th, 2019 AT 6:30 PM
Tiny
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Wish I could, thanks.
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Friday, December 6th, 2019 AT 9:27 PM
Tiny
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What tires does it have on it now? If you can only afford a single set go take a look at the tires your local WalMart has. They carry or can get you Goodyear Wranglers, BF Goodrich Rugged terrain and others. I know what it's like not having money, my first car ran whatever I could find that was legal tread depth! Bought tires off salvage yards, used tire shops, even re-grooved a few just to get to work. These days I've figured out that my life and more importantly the lives of the ones around me are worth a bit more.
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Friday, December 6th, 2019 AT 10:05 PM
Tiny
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I really don't even know what they are, I had money from delivery job and stupidly had it in cash in a safe. Some heroin junkies stole the safe, and Im currently 12 hours away taking care of my grandmother. So unable to get back to work right now, and just put the rest of my saving towards a down payment on a house to move GMA back. Im 19, my truck is basically falling apart lol, I might need a new head gasket right now on top of like 10 other things I need to do.
Don't worry, Im going to be safe regardless. There's nothing more important to me than mine and others safety. Im seriously an experienced driver, driven at least close to 200,000 miles already. Im very safe, don't speed. Regardless of the tires I get, I always plan to travel on days when there's no snow across my route. And if it's really snowy on the roads I don't have to go out, it's just to be prepared. Thanks
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Saturday, December 7th, 2019 AT 10:52 AM
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Use 2CarPros anytime, we are here to help. Please tell a friend.
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 11:18 AM

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