Fuel pressure?

Tiny
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  • 2021 KIA SPORTAGE
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 69,000 MILES
After the car has not been running for a few hours the engine will stumble, sputter at startup for a few seconds and then run smoothly. But if I turn the switch and leave it on for a few seconds, then crank the engine to start, it will run fine. No stumble. I had someone turn the switch to on only while I listened over the right rear seat and the pump motor will run for a few seconds and shut off. I immediately had them turn the switch off and back on and the pump ran again, and it shut off in two or three seconds. Had them turn the switch on third time, same thing. Pump ran and shut off by itself. Is the fuel line losing pressure that quick? I have not installed a fuel pressure gauge on the system yet. There are three parts stores in town. I hope one of them has a gauge I can rent. And I checked one spark plug, no deposits but was black. So, it is running rich. Would an injector leak fuel into a cylinder. I am just looking for answers to questions I have in my head. I like to do my own work, but I need help on this.
Monday, January 6th, 2025 AT 6:07 PM

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Tiny
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First the pump running for just a couple of seconds is proper operation. Fuel pressure should hold for weeks, or at least multiple days, but in case it does bleed down a little, that two-second burst is designed to get pressure back up for starting. After that, the pump gets turned back on during engine rotation, (cranking or running). Safety is the reason the circuit works this way. If a fuel line is ruptured in a crash, raw fuel would get dumped onto the ground and be a serious fire hazard. Instead, with a ruptured line, there can't be any fuel pressure. With no pressure, no fuel will spray from the injectors. The engine will stall, then, with no signal pulses from the crankshaft position sensor or the camshaft position sensor, the Engine Computer turns the fuel pump off again. That stops it from pouring gas on the ground.

Cycling the ignition switch multiple times is a test that can prove fuel pressure is dropping down too quickly. Pressure can be lost due to a leaking injector, a leaking check valve in the fuel pump, or, depending on the type of fuel supply system, a leaking fuel pressure regulator.

It's easiest to watch the pressure drop over time with a fuel pressure gauge, but you found a clue to do the same thing. That's the hard starting / sputtering. If you have a hose pinch-off pliers, use it to block the fuel return hose if your vehicle has one. That will be the smaller of the two connected to the fuel rail on the engine. If pressure still fades away, block the larger fuel supply hose and watch again.

Most commonly the pressure will continue dropping with both tests. That leaves an injector which is by far, the most common cause. On some engines, you can remove the spark plugs and find one that's wet, or you can see fuel dripping into the cylinder, but that's not conclusive. Except for the newer direct injection models, gas leaks from an injector into the intake manifold, not directly into the cylinder where you can see it. Then we have to remove all of the injectors still connected to the fuel rail. The leaking one will be evident by the wetness on its tip.
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Monday, January 6th, 2025 AT 7:24 PM

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