1997 Ford Expedition Runs Badly

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BEERMAN40
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  • 1997 FORD EXPEDITION
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 169,000 MILES
I have changed the AIC, Plugs, All O2 sensors, Mass air Flow sensor, Fuel filter, Cleaned several other parts. But I can't get this car to run or stay running at an idle. At first start the car runs and idles as it should. As it idles down it starts to run very rough. All the codes say lean on either bank i.E. P1151 and similar codes. They all point to a lean issue. What other directions should I check. I can get more codes for you if needed. Just cleared them today after trying some more things to correct this issue. Need to run car a bit to get them back.
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Saturday, April 17th, 2010 AT 8:14 PM

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Tiny
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Intake manifold and gasket leak
Very hard to locate and find and the use of a smoke is needed
Should have it smoke tested and suspect manifold gasket
You can list the codes as they become available and I will check them thru the data base I have
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Sunday, April 18th, 2010 AT 9:10 AM
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MIL LIT/DTC IN MEMORY WITH DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Reference Number(s): 97-26-19, Date of Issue: December 22, 1997
Superceded Bulletin(s): 97-21-13, Date of Issue: October 13, 1997
Related Ref Number(s): 97-21-13, 97-26-19
ARTICLE BEGINNING
CONDITIONS
HESITATION/SURGE - MIL ILLUMINATED - DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) P0133, P0135, P0141, P0153, P0155, P0161, P1130, P1131, P1132, P1137, P1138, P1150, P1151, P1152, P1157, P1158 STORED IN MEMORY - VEHICLES BUILT THROUGH 11/97
MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP (MIL) - MIL ILLUMINATED - DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) P0133, P0135, P0141, P0153, P0155, P0161, P1130, P1131, P1132, P1137, P1138, P1150, P1151, P1152, P1157, P1158 STORED - VEHICLES BUILT THROUGH 11/97
ROUGH IDLE - MIL ILLUMINATED - DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) P0133, P0135, P0141, P0153, P0155, P0161, P1130, P1131, P1132, P1137, P1138, P1150, P1151, P1152, P1157, P1158 STORED IN MEMORY - VEHICLES BUILT THROUGH 11/97
STALL - LOW SPEEDS AND OR IDLE - MIL ILLUMINATED - DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) P0133, P0135, P0141, P0153, P0155, P0161, P1130, P1131, P1132, P1137, P1138, P1150, P1151, P1152, P1157, P1158 IN MEMORY - VEHICLES BUILT THROUGH 11/97
LAMP - MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP (MIL) ILLUMINATED - DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) P0133, P0135, P0141, P0153, P0155, P0161, P1130, P1131, P1132, P1137, P1138, P1150, P1151, P1152, P1157, P1158 STORED - VEHICLES BUILT THROUGH 11/97
APPLICATION
Model(s): Ford Light Truck: 1997-98 Expedition, F-150, F-250 LD
1998 F-350
Lincoln-Mercury: 1998 Navigator
Bulletin No: 97-26-19
Date: December 22, 1997
Calibration: 7-46D-R07, 7-46E-R07, 7-46F-R07, 7-46R-R07, 7-46T-R07, 7-46U-R07, 7-46F-R10, 7-46U-R10, 7-48J-R05, 7-48U-R05, 7-48J-R10, 7-48U-R10, 8-46D-R05, 8-46E-R05, 8-46F-R05, 8-46R-R05, 8-46T-R05, 8-46U-R05, 8-48J-R05
NOTE:This bulletin supersedes Technical Service Bulletin 97-21-13 dated October 13, 1997.

WARNING:This modification is authorized only for the listed engine. Performing this modification on other engine calibrations is unauthorized and could create liability under applicable federal or local laws.

ISSUE
The Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MiL) may illuminate on vehicles with a 4.6L or 5.4L engine, and one or more of the following concerns may be present:
MIL lamp on with Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs): P0133, P0135, P0141, P0153, P0155, P0161, P1130, P1131, P1132, P1137, P1138, P1150, P1151, P1152, P1157, P1158
Rough idle
Engine miss
Hesitation/Surge
Buck/Jerk
Stall at idle
Near stall
Stall at low speeds
This may be caused by the Heated Exhaust Gas Oxygen (HEGO) monitor calibration not allowing enough time for proper monitoring.
ACTION
Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and replace the HEGO sensor(s). Refer to the following SERVICE PROCEDURE for details.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Perform normal diagnostics as outlined in the 1997 Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) On-Board Diagnostics II (OBD II) Service Manual and repair as required.
If the concern still exists or no problems were found, reprogram the PCM using Service Bay Diagnostic System (SDBS) or New Generation Star (NGS) Tester. Refer to the following RECALIBRATION CROSS REFERENCE CHART for correct PCM calibration.
Replace the HEGO sensor(s) (F88Z-9F472-AB) as required.
NOTE:For 5.4L applications, dealers must also perform TSB 97-26-17 to install the drain tube on the lower A/C evaporator drain.

RECALIBRATION CROSS REFERENCE
Year/Engine SizeOld CalibrationOld Part Number (-12A650-)New CalibrationNew Part Number (-12A650-)
1997 - 4.6L7-48J-R05 7-48J-R10 7-48U-R05 7-48U-R10F75F-AEB F75F-AEC F75F-XB F75F-XC7-48J-R10 7-48J-R10 7-48U-R10 7-48U-R10F85F-TC F85F-TC F85F-UC F85F-UC
1998 - 4.6L8-48U-R05 8-48J-R05F85F-UB F85F-TB8-46U-R10 8-48J-R10F85F-UC F85F-TC
1997 - 5.4L7-46D-R07 7-46E-R07 7-46F-R07 7-46F-R10 7-46R-R07 7-46T-R07 7-46U-R07 7-46U-R10F75F-ZD F75F-UD F75F-ACD F75F-ACE F75F-AAD F75F-VD F75F-ADD F75F-ADE7-46D-R07 7-46E-R07 7-46F-R10 7-46F-R10 7-46R-R07 7-46T-R07 7-46U-R10 7-46U-R10F7PF-ADA F7PF-AEA F7PF-AFA F7PF-AFA F7PF-AGA F7PF-AHA F7PF-AJA F75F-AJA
1998 - 5.4L8-46D-R05 8-46E-R05 8-46F-R05 8-46R-R05 8-46T-R05 8-46U-R05F85F-AAB F85F-ZB F85F-ACB F85F-ABB F85F-VB F85F-YB8-46D-R10 8-46E-R10 8-46F-R10 8-46R-R10 8-46T-R10 8-46U-R10F85F-AAC F85F-ZC F85F-ACC F85F-ABC F85F-VC F85F-YC

NOTE:PCM replacement is not authorized by this TSB. Refer to the Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) Service Manual for appropriate diagnostic procedures if PCM hardware concerns exist.

Obtain an Authorized Modification Decal (FPS 8262 - obtainable through DOES II, 25/pkg) and list the date, dealer number, and summary of modifications performed. See Fig. 1. Select a prominent place adjacent to the Vehicle Emission Control Information Decal suitable for installing the Authorized Modifications Decal Clean the area, install the decal, and cover it with a clear plastic decal shield.
PARTS INFORMATION
PARTS INFORMATION
Part NumberPart Name
F88Z-9F472-ABHeated Exhaust Gas Oxygen (HEGO) Sensor
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