After replacing the engine the A/C is not working?

Tiny
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  • 2008 TOYOTA TUNDRA
  • 5.7L
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 160,000 MILES
I have the truck listed above that came to me in pieces. The owner took it to Toyota after it overheated, and the removed a head and confirmed it was warped, along with the deck. It was a puzzle to say the least to put in the donor engine. But it's all running. I then charged the A/C.

Let me back up for a moment. The A/C compressor was sitting in the bed of the truck upon arrival. The pulley would not turn. I installed it and used a breaker bar to free it up and it spun fine after that.

I charged it and the pressures were fine, did not really blow cold.

The customer said there was smoke coming from it a few days ago.

I hooked up the manifold and nothing showed. I took off the lines and they both popped off loudly! There was pressure!

So I put on a new compressor, measured and added PAG oil, rotated it, felt suction. Hooked up the manifold, and proceeded to add refrigerant. The clutch would not engage, nothing weird there, I jumped the relay, it engages. Woah, the pressures immediately went into vacuum! When the engine is off the pressure is equalized at 85 PSI according to the manifold.

Neither pipes are above ambient, low isn't cold. I can see refrigerant being sucked in through the sight glass even without the clutch on.

I admit i'm not an A/C tech, but I have recharged dozens of cars the same way and never encountered this.
Monday, August 16th, 2021 AT 9:16 AM

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Tiny
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More info.

Now the compressor is engaging on its own, the pressures are starting to act normal, then we both heard a huge pressure purge! Like a air pump on a semi. Could smell r-134, see the vapor in the air, but could not see the source before it stopped.

My goggles and UV flashlight showed nothing in the whole engine bay.
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Monday, August 16th, 2021 AT 9:35 AM
Tiny
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Okay. Let's start with finding the leak because nothing matters until that is fixed.

Have you checked the evaporator?

Assuming this noise was leak, what are the pressures now that this has happened?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/re-charge-an-air-conditioner-system

Clearly having 85 PSI on both sides was correct but what were they when it was starting to act normal and was it blowing cold?

More than likely you have a restriction in the system but we need to start with the basics.

If there is no leak in the engine then the likely cause is the evaporator or line to it.

If there is no leak then the noise you heard may have been the compressor failing. If that is the case then the pressures will reflect this by staying static at 85 PSI all the time.

Take a look at the chart below and that will show proper pressures based on temperature.

Let's start here and go from there.

Thanks
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Tuesday, August 17th, 2021 AT 2:55 PM
Tiny
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I have replaced the compressor and vacuumed the system. Holds vacuum. I have heard Toyota charges the A/C through the high side? Is that right?
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Monday, September 27th, 2021 AT 9:04 AM
Tiny
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I have never heard that so I am not seeing any info that says it is any different than any other vehicle that you install it on the low side.

Here is the info from the manual that shows how to do this. It doesn't tell you high or low which means it is on the low side.
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Monday, September 27th, 2021 AT 11:32 AM

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