Engine shuts off while driving at any given time or speed and is an intermittent and unpredictable problem

Tiny
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  • 2006 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX
  • 3.8L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 135,000 MILES
Car shuts off while driving yet the car battery remains powered. This occurs intermittently and at unpredictable times leaving the driver without steering or brakes at any given speed while driving. If an attempt is made to restart the car immediately after the car shuts off, it responds as if the timing of the engine is seriously out of place; wait a few minutes and the engine starts. This can accrue during a long drive or not at all or several times within a mile. This is a sudden loss of power and is not a fuel problem. I am fairly sure it is not an anti theft issue. I am suspicious of the Ignition control mo dual or the on board computer. This problem started immediately after a AAA person was called out to test my dead battery. He jumped and started the car but said the battery needed replaced and I replaced it. When I went to start the car he It would not start but acted as if the timing was off. He told me to wait until the on board computer cycled through its program. Fifteen minutes later it started and I drove the car seventy five miles home. My cruise control kicked off two or three times during that drive. This lead me to believe the problem is in the ignition control modal because of the changing out of my battery. The problem reoccurred the next morning within a mile or two of my house and so I return home. I checked the battery and the positive terminal was never tightened down. It was loose. I was also suspicious of the fuse box which the battery guy unbolted and moved to get the battery in and out. I did the changing of the battery in the dark with the light from his cell phone. A really poor job he did. I think he messed things up. I have avoided longer drives. The problem so far has occurred once again. Wait a few minutes and it starts What is your opinion of this problem? I would appreciate your thoughts. Sincerely, Raymond Johnson.
Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 5:17 PM

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Tiny
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Hi Raymond:

Since the battery was replaced in the dark, confirm that the battery terminals are clean and tight. Also, is it possible for you to record the engine sound when this happens and you are cranking it so I can hear it?

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 5:31 PM
Tiny
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I will record this when it happens again but it is the sound you hear when the timing is off but the engine wont start as you crank it, not smooth, but rough. Thanks for your help.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 9:29 PM
Tiny
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Hi:

I wonder if a crankshaft position sensor is going bad. That can cause a stall at any time. Then it may only be firing a couple cylinders making it sound odd.

I hope you are able to record it. I would like to hear it. Also, take a look through these links. One explains how one works and the other symptoms of a bad one.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-crank-shaft-angle-sensor-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-crankshaft-sensor

If you get a chance, let me know if you feel the problem seems to mirror what is in the links.

Take care,
Joe
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 9:25 PM

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