A/C Compressor relay diagram needed

Tiny
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  • 2017 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA
  • 1.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • TURBO
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 25,000 MILES
I'm searching for the A/C Compressor relay and can't find a schematic or diagram anywhere.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Sunday, May 1st, 2022 AT 6:08 PM

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Tiny
STEVE W.
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Looking at the wiring for the A/C the relay if it has one as only the manual A/C and the high end climat-ronic system has one, is on the relay control box mounted behind the dash on the driver's side. You need to remove the dash cover in the drivers footwell to gain access to it. Then the fuse panel gets removed and the relay box is behind it, mounted to the electrical box. Looking at the way it is controlled I would try a few tests before I dug out the relay. Both relay versions use blue wire with brown stripes as the control. Both also use fuse 32 for power to the clutch through the relay. I would remove the center stack trim, then unbolt the HVAC control head and pull it out. Both types use the same removal and wiring connection. Now find the blue, brown wire at pin 8 on the control connector. Use a test light connected to battery positive and just touch that wire. If the relay, wiring and clutch are okay, you will hear the clutch click on and off as you apply and remove power. If you do hear that then the issue is on the other side of the system, either a low charge, bad pressure or temperature switch or similar, but you will know it isn't the relay and wiring that is stuffed in the dash. If you don't hear the clutch engaging, connect a second test light in its place to verify the relay and wiring and that would point to a bad clutch.
Please let us know what you find, and if possible, what the problem with the system is currently. Thank you
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Sunday, May 1st, 2022 AT 7:23 PM
Tiny
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After further inspection, neither the condenser fan nor radiator fan is spinning, as well as the compressor clutch not engaging. I checked all fuses and they all have continuity, no idea where to go from here.
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Monday, May 2nd, 2022 AT 9:11 AM
Tiny
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The condenser fan would only come on with the A/C working or as the secondary cooling fan if it gets hot enough. The main fan only comes on when the coolant temperature hits around 220 degrees.
If the compressor isn't engaging and the fan doesn't come on when A/C is commanded on with the control, I would start by checking that it has a charge in it. The best way for that would be to use a machine to recover the charge and recharge the system by weight. Once you know you have a correct charge diagnostics become much easier. Because the system appears to be non-functional using a common gauge set won't really help as even a very small charge will show the same static pressure as a full charge. However, you could use a power jumper to trigger the clutch, if you did that a regular gauge set would at least show if it had a charge in it.
What was the original complaint about the vehicle? No or low A/C or?
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Monday, May 2nd, 2022 AT 10:10 AM
Tiny
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Well, when I first bought the car at around 21,000 the A/C worked as it should, all of a sudden it stopped working. I'm just assuming it has to be electrical because I never smelled a burnt belt or gas leaking.
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Monday, May 2nd, 2022 AT 10:19 AM
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STEVE W.
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You wouldn't smell any leaks, R134A doesn't smell unless you were to fill the interior with it, and even then, you would only smell the oil. So, take a good flashlight and look over every A/C fitting and part that you can access and see if you spot any oily areas, those are the oil in the system leaking out. Replace any O-rings or switches or other parts as required. Next would be to pull a vacuum and recharge the system with dye in it, then look it over in a dark shop using a UV light, the dye glows under UV, if the system functions and you find no leaks it should be okay. If you do find leaks, then it would need to be recovered and repaired as needed. To see if the evaporator core might be leaking, you can lightly spray some water at the HVAC air intake and then look at the water coming out of the drain under the car. If you see it glowing from the dye, it's likely the core is leaking.
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/air-conditioner-leak-detection
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Monday, May 2nd, 2022 AT 10:27 AM

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