I'm not familiar with "captain's" and "drinker's". As for the rocker switch, that is not a valid test for anything. Those are totally different from a power window switch. The power window switch actually has four sets of contacts. To test the circuit for continuity, unplug the two-wire connector from the motor, then measure the resistance from each one to ground. You should find very low, (almost 0 ohms), resistance on each wire when the window switch is released. At the same time you will find 0.0 volts on each wire, again, measuring to ground.
Next, measure the voltage on those two motor wires when you press the switch. When pressing it "up", 12 volts should appear on just one of those wires. When you press the switch "down", 12 volts should appear on just the other wire.
I'm happy you're using a test light for this. Exact voltage readings aren't important. We need to know if the test light is bright, dim, or off.
Assuming 12 volts shows up on the motor wires, plug that connector back into the motor, then check on those two wires again. Press "up", then you should find 12 volts on just one of those wires by back-probing through the back of the plug. Check on both wires. If you find 12 volts on both of them at the same time, there is a break in the ground circuit that we have to narrow down. If you find 0 volts on both of them, there's a break in the 12-volt circuit.
Getting back to the rocker switch, a double-throw switch has a common contact that makes a connection to one "switched" contact or the other one, depending on which way it is flipped. If you have a double-pole switch, it has two independent switches built in together and they both switch at the same time. A power window or a power lock switch is completely different. There's still two independent switches built in, but they don't switch together. Both make a connection for one motor wire to be switched to ground. When you press the switch "up", one switch remains connected to ground. The other one breaks its ground circuit, then switches to the 12-volt supply. That puts the 12 volts on one motor wire while the other motor wire is still grounded.
When you press "down", the roles are reversed. 12 volts is switched onto the other wire and the one that had 12 volts is now grounded. By switching polarity, the motor runs in a different direction.
There's one more thing that can be very elusive to identify. That is, ... Most window motors have a built-in thermal, auto-resetting circuit breaker. Those cause more trouble than they prevent. If you find you have a nice, bright test light on just one motor wire when the switch is pressed, and a good ground on the other wire, yet the motor doesn't run, that circuit breaker might be tripping. That actually can make the motor appear to run fine when hooked to a battery or battery charger, but not when plugged into the van's harness. Those circuit breakers are well-known to develop arced or pitted contacts that add a little resistance to the circuit. Current flowing through that resistance causes a small drop in voltage, but more importantly, heat. That heat migrates into the bimetallic strip and makes it much easier than normal for that circuit breaker to trip.
The second part of that story has to do with one fundamental fact about electric motors. That is, anything that slows them down causes them to draw higher current. That's why a stalled motor can blow a fuse, but it won't blow that fuse when running normally. When the motor is trying to move the window, the extra drag causes the motor to slow down. There's always some resistance in the van's wiring, connector terminals, and switch contacts. That little resistance slows the motor down too. In response, the motor draws higher and higher current, often to the point a weak circuit breaker will trip. It can take a couple of minutes for it to cool down and reset, then the motor will run again.
When you connect a motor with a weak circuit breaker directly to a battery, you eliminate the van's circuit resistance. The motor "sees" a higher voltage, runs faster, and draws LESS current, so it may run fine on the battery but not when installed in the door. I know drawing higher current is counter-intuitive to running slower. If it comes to that, I can explain the theory behind it at another time.
This circuit breaker problem is also common on rear vent window motors on minivans. We will only pursue this if all the voltage tests are okay. For now, tell me the results of the resistance and voltage tests, but please be specific when you tell me what you did. For example, "I tested the switch, and it's working" leaves me scratching my head. I don't know how you did that, what results you found or how you interpreted them. I wish I could be looking over your shoulder. Instead, to prevent my confusion, give me the voltage readings, then hopefully we'll figure out where the thought train got derailed.
Oh, to double-check, we are working on the driver's window, correct? If this is the passenger's window, there's a whole lot more to add to the circuitry, and more places to look for problems.
Tuesday, December 9th, 2025 AT 11:17 AM