I have a 2003 4 door Stratus with the 2.2L 4 cylinder engine.I went up to the mountains(i live in colorao), I had a hard time climbing the mountain roads, is it commom to have a hard time since its only a 4 cylinder, plus I had 3 people in the car, its my first time with a engine that small, my last car 1989 Buick Century Custom : 3.3L v6 didnt have a problem
The MAP sensor determines load on the engine by measuring manifold vacuum. Chrysler is the only manufacturer that has been able to make an engine run well with just that one sensor. Everyone else has needed a Mass Air Flow sensor. Every time you start the engine, the engine computer uses the MAP reading, (just before cranking starts), to determine barometric pressure, then builds a fuel metering strategy around it. As you go up the mountains, barometric pressure changes. Fuel delivery needs to be modified to match the lower air pressure, but the only thing the engine sees is a constantly rich exhaust. Based on the oxygen sensor readings, the computer can adjust fuel metering plus or minus only about 10 percent around the initial barometric pressure reading. With lower barometric pressure, less air goes into the engine. The computer removes fuel to maintain the proper mixture for lowest emissions. Lower fuel and air delivery means lower power.
For some car models, there are different MAP sensors available for vehicles that spend most of their lives high up in the mountains. For the rest of us, relatively poor performance under one extreme condition is a tiny price to pay for an engine that performs really well under all normal conditions.
All you need to do is turn the engine off, wait a few seconds, then restart it. The computer will take a new barometric pressure reading and set fuel metering around the new value. Many older GM cars used MAP sensors as a backup system to the trouble-prone MAF sensors. When the MAP wasn't needed for measuring engine load, it was constantly measuring barometric pressure while you were driving.
It also used to be real common for the " Check Engine" light to turn on in GM cars when you went up the mountains and when you came back down because the required fuel mixture was outside the range the computer was able to achieve. In those models, too, you just needed to restart the engine to update the barometric pressure reading.
June, 13, 2009 AT 12:22 AM
So my car will struggle going up mountain roads
June, 13, 2009 AT 3:24 AM
You will know that better than me. If you don't have any trouble with steep hills around home but you do high up in the mountains, that would be proof the elevation is the problem, and is somewhat common. If you have trouble at lower elevations too, I would have to suggest that's not normal. I worked on a lot of this model when I worked at the dealership, and one of my favorite test drive routes included a real steep hill. Never had any trouble zipping up it with any of the four cylinder engines.
I have a rusty trusty '88 Grand Caravan that I took on three real long trips in the last year. Once a year I also pull an enclosed trailer that's bigger than the van. Except for the wind resistance, it cruises right along. I love passing the big empty pickup trucks on the highway and seeing the looks I get as the mighty freight train zooms by. But with it empty, it works kinda hard going through the Ozark Mountains. The lower part isn't too bad, but high up I'm no longer passing everyone in sight. It still runs smoothly, just doesn't have its normal power. I suspect you're running into the same thing.