1995 Dodge Neon Brake Sticking

Tiny
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  • 1995 DODGE NEON
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • MANUAL
  • 196,000 MILES
Hi Peoples, As stated, I have a 95 dodge neon 2.0 dohc sport model with ABS. For about 14 months now the front driver side brake was not releasing completey. About 3 months ago it got the the point to where it was really affecting the driveability of the car. Before, it would grab, but had a delayed release so to speak. Suddenly, it locked up on me, not completely but enought to heat the rotor and pad to the point of smoking. We replaced the caliper, all was fine for about 2 days, than it started the delayed release again, it is about 3 seconds slower than the rest of the brakes in releasing. More recently the braked locked up again to the point of smoking. What else could be causing this problem. Thanks
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 5:34 PM

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Tiny
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Hello
I would check the caliper and its operation and sliders
and if all OK and good I will move on to the hose
have a helper pump the brakes for you few time
you check if and when the tire hard to move so the caliper is sticking
open the bleeder on the caliper if it release and the tire turning chances you need a new caliper hose
hope that help let me know
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 6:42 PM
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Ok, well I went down there and undid the bleeder screw that connects the rubber hose, but I cant seem to figure out how to undo the other side of the rubber hose. It looks like it is made into the metal piece that holds it to the car. On a brighter note ( or not so bright ) after undoing the screw the brake releases fine. After everything is tightened back up the brake still holds for about 25 seconds now with out releaseing. I am a amteur mechanic, with little knowledge about these things and could use all the guidence available here. Thanks. And for what was responded, releasing the caliper bleeder, that would release the brake regaurdless, like, isnt that what is supoe to happen when you undo the bleeder bolt, you lose brake presure, so I dont know if this even proved anything, fluid is running through the hose fine, my stepdad seems to think it is just a bad caliper, like we got a bad one from the parts store or what not, please, give all the insight you can as he states he has never seen a collapsed hose, and highly doubts its that
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 7:45 PM
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Nevermind on the not getting the piece off, the screw was stripped holding it to the firewall, but I forced it out, but now its kinda late so I have to wait till tomorrow to goto autozone to pick up the replacement cable ill let u all know how it works out
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 8:26 PM
Tiny
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If the caliper is bad then it wouldn t release when bleeder open because its bad and its piston is stuck.
But if it release then the caliper most likely is OK and the hose is collapsed on the inside where it allows the fluid one way under pressure and the other way
because no pressure
so I would say you need a caliper hose
you need a
line wrench I think its a 3/8 or 7/16
and then its a clip that holds the line in it should slide out use a screw driver
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 8:56 PM
Tiny
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Well, there was no clip, its all one piece monted with a screw. I got it all undone just have to wait untill the parts store opens back up tomorrow morning. I will post more details about it then to let u all kno if it works or not
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 8:58 PM
Tiny
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Make sure u use something to block the brake fluid from leaking out the line
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 9:05 PM
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After bleeding them so much hoping to solve the problem. There is little to no fluid left in the holder. Will this cause problems or?
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 9:06 PM
Tiny
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Its better if you don t let it drain out it will may take a longer time and harder to bleed
use a small vacuum hose place it over the line and plug the other end off
you can use a screw or a bolt
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Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 AT 9:16 PM
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Ok, after installing the new line, I cant get any brake pressure AT ALL.I bleed them, fluid comes straight thru like it should, tighten it back down start the car no pressure, builds pressure when the car if off, but the minute the car starts the pedal hits the floor, instalation is identical to the passenger side I cant figure out what else went wrong
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 AT 1:26 PM
Tiny
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Thats why you shouldn t let the fluid run out
you allowed air into the system
and now you have to bleed the system
starting at the master cylinder and work your way
you need a helper with a good leg to pump the brake for you
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 AT 5:22 PM
Tiny
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I bled all four disc brakes on the cra, fluid came out with no problem I went around the car twice just to make sure they bleed fine and I have went through a half thing of double sized brake fluid. So I am not sure
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 AT 8:19 PM
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On top of all that how could I possibly know when all the air is out of the lines, and it would it just be the line I was working on or all lines, or just bleed on line till im through a whole bottle of brake fluid, and judge it like that and say well, if a whole bottle of brake fluid isnt enough to get all the old fluid out ( fluid with air between it ) than there must not be any air in it. And then move on to the next one and do the same. And just to make sure that we are doing it right, car is OFF. Pump the brake untill you can hardly push it down, hold it there, undo bleeder bolt, let the pedal hit the floor, hold it to the floor untill the the bolt is tightened back up all the way and than repeat. And some where along the way I should run into some spittin fluid as that would mean air in that line. And also, keep an eye on the brak fluid in the resovoir as if it runs out the same issue happens again. Let me know if I am on the right track here, or if there is a better way to stimate if there is air in the line. Thanks so much guys
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 AT 8:39 PM
Tiny
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Your on the right track
when you have just fluid after you open the bleeder
do it twice if no air move on to the other
do it rear right then front left
rear left then front right
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 AT 9:11 PM
Tiny
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So only do it twice? If thats the case than I am pretty sure air is not the problem, as I went around the car twice. First time front left, twice, than rear left, 3 times, 3 times on rear right, and 3 times on front right. Each time same result from all brakes. But just to be positive I onced over each caliper again. Anything else that it might be other than air in the lines? Or should I try bleeding again?
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 AT 10:04 PM
Tiny
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Twice after you think all the air out
just to make sure its all out
im not saying do it twice and all air out
+ if you still having the low pedal start from the master cylinder
pump until hard release the line
and again until no air coming out with the fluid and its just fluid
and then move on to the other and so on
keep eye on the fluid in the master cylinder tank do not let it run too low or like you did nothing
you have to start all over
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Thursday, January 31st, 2008 AT 7:18 PM

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