2001 Dodge Caravan rear A/C working fine, front A/C not

Tiny
GREENEYEDGIRL
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  • 2001 DODGE CARAVAN
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 89,000 MILES
The rear a/c is working fine, but the front a/c is just blowing air. What could be causing this? It was working fine a couple of days ago, but when I got in it today, it seems fine, but the air never gets cold. The rear air is perfectly fine. Is there a fuse or something we can check?

Thanks!


Update - I just went out and checked it again. I noticed that the driver's side is blowing slightly warm air, while the passenger side is blowing slightly cool air. I do have the dual controls. The rear air is still nice and cold. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated!

Update again - I've been researching this a little more and it looks like it could be the blend door. I was running the dehumidifier the other day and switched it to warm air.I bet it got stuck! If that's what it is, where can I find it? My DH is good with cars, but he's not here right now. Will it need replaced, or is there a fix? THANKS!
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Friday, July 11th, 2008 AT 8:14 PM

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Tiny
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Its a motor and it need to be replaced


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_caravan_blend_1.jpg


good luck
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Saturday, July 12th, 2008 AT 6:15 AM
Tiny
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Ok, looks like there are 2 of them since I have the dual system (numbers 4 & 6 on the picture, correct?) How do we know which one needs replaced? Also, our parts stores said they do not carry this part, so I guess we'll have to get it from the dealer. Ouch! Is there any reason you would not recommend my DH do it himself? He is very good with cars and electrical items, but some things are better left to a pro.

Thanks soooo much for your help!
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Saturday, July 12th, 2008 AT 8:13 PM
Tiny
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Its not a job that I would say remove that part and try it
its a lot of work and money to say oo oo ! It didn't work lets try something else
u need to run a diagnose test on it

AUTOMATIC A/C-HEATER SYSTEMS -2001 Dodge Caravan SE

NOTE: Following procedures were written specifically for use with a DRBIII scan tool. Other generic scan tools can be used, but may have limited functions.

SELF-DIAGNOSTIC SYSTEM
READING DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES
Automatic Temperature Control (ATC) module is capable of storing active and stored Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) or DTC/fault messages. An active DTC/fault message indicates that a fault currently exists. A stored DTC/fault message indicates that a problem had occurred in system, but is not currently present. Active DTC/fault messages cannot be erased until cause of fault has been repaired or no longer is present. When an active DTC/fault message is no longer detected, it is converted into a stored DTC/fault message and will remain until DTC/fault message has been erased. Stored ATC module DTC/fault messages can be erased using DRBIII or generic scan tool (refer to scan tool manufacturer's instructions).
Set parking brake and block wheels. Place transmission gear selector in Park, or shifter in Neutral. Start engine, and allow engine to idle. Using scan tool, check for Powertrain Control Module (PCM) DTC/fault messages present for A/C-heating related systems. If PCM DTCs P0645, P1598 or P1599 are present, record each message and go to appropriate test procedure(s). See ATC MODULE DTC/FAULT MESSAGES index under DIAGNOSTIC TESTS.
Using scan tool, select HVAC system and check all DTC/fault messages present which are currently set (active) or stored in ATC module memory. Active DTC/fault messages take priority over stored DTC/fault messages. Diagnose any active DTC/fault messages before investigating any stored DTC/fault messages. If DTC/fault messages are present (active or stored), record each message and go to appropriate test procedure(s). See ATC MODULE DTC/FAULT MESSAGES index under DIAGNOSTIC TESTS.
CLEARING STORED DTC/FAULT MESSAGES

NOTE: Active DTC/fault messages indicate a fault currently exists. Active DTC/fault messages cannot be cleared until condition for setting DTC/fault messages has been repaired or is no longer is present, and ignition cycle has been completed.
Stored DTC/fault messages can be erased using DRBIII or generic scan tool (refer to scan tool manufacturers instructions). Follow screen prompts on scan tool to clear all stored DTC/fault messages. Cycle ignition switch off and on. Read DTC/fault messages again. Ensure all DTC/fault messages have been cleared.
MONITOR & SET CONDITIONS

Description

Following list are possible ATC module Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) and/or DTC/fault messages, or symptoms that could be displayed on scan tool. Then a description of when ATC module DTC/fault messages are monitored, and conditions necessary to set the listed DTC/fault message. For appropriate testing procedures for ATC module DTC/fault message displayed, see ATC MODULE DTC/FAULT MESSAGES index under DIAGNOSTIC TESTS.
DTC P0645
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. Battery voltage greater than 10 volts. A/C switch on. DTC P0645 will set when an open or short condition is detected in A/C clutch relay control circuit.
DTC P1598

Monitored with engine running and A/C relay energized. DTC P1598 will set when A/C pressure signal at PCM increases to greater than 4.92 volts.
DTC P1599

Monitored with engine running and A/C relay energized. DTC P1599 will set when A/C pressure signal at Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is less than.58 volt for 2.6 seconds.
A/C Pressure Too High

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when A/C pressure sensor value is greater than 250 counts.
A/C Pressure Too Low

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when A/C pressure sensor value is less than 20 counts.
Ambient Air Temperature Message Missing

Monitored every 8 seconds. DTC/fault message sets when outside air temperature signal is expected, and is not received within the maximum time allowed.
Body Status Message Missing
Monitored every 8 seconds with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive body status message within 8 seconds.
Coolant Temperature Message Missing
Monitored every 8 seconds with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive coolant temperature message within 8 seconds.
Driver Blend Door Not Responding
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does

not receive feedback pulses within 5 seconds from the time the drive voltage was applied.
Driver Blend Door Travel/Range Too Large
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is greater than expected.
Driver Blend Door Travel/Range Too Small

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is less than expected.
Engine Sensor Message Missing

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive engine sensor messages.
Evaporator Temperature Sensor Open (Or Shorted)
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module detects high voltage (open) or low voltage (shorted) evaporator temperature sensor signal circuit.
EVIC Message Missing
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive the EVIC message within 8 seconds.
Front IR Sensor & Control Head Mismatch
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module receives conflicting information between Infrared (IR) sensor and set temperature of ATC control panel.
Front IR Sensor High

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module reads front Infrared (IR) sensor value is greater than 250 counts.
Front IR Sensor Low

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module reads front Infrared (IR) sensor value of less than 5 counts.
Front IR Sensor Not Calibrated

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module cannot read Infrared (IR) sensor values, or IR sensor values are not within a desired range of HVAC door motor counts.
Front Mode Door Not Responding

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive feedback pulses within 5 seconds for the time the drive voltage was applied.
Front Mode Door Travel/Range Too Large

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is greater than expected.
Front Mode Door Travel/Range Too Small
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is less than expected.
Passenger Blend Door Not Responding
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive feedback pulses within 5 seconds for the time the drive voltage was applied.
Passenger Blend Door Travel/Range Too Large

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is greater than expected.
Passenger Blend Door Travel/Range Too Small

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is less than expected.
PCI Bus Shorted High
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module detects a short to voltage on PCI Bus circuit.
PCI Bus Shorted Low
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module detects a short to ground on PCI Bus circuit.
Personality Message Missing
Monitored every 8 seconds, with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive personality message within 8 seconds.
Rear Blend Door Not Responding

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive feedback pulses within 5 seconds from when drive voltage was applied.
Rear Blend Door Travel/Range Too Large

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is greater than expected.
Rear Blend Door Travel/Range Too Small
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is less than expected.
Rear Fan Potentiometer Shorted
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message will set when ATC module reads rear fan switch value, and it is less than 5 counts.
Rear IR Sensor High

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module reads rear Infrared (IR) sensor value, and it is greater than 250 counts.
Rear IR Sensor Low

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module reads rear Infrared (IR) sensor value, and it is less than 5 counts.
Rear Mode Door Not Responding

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive feedback pulses within 5 seconds from when drive voltage was applied.
Rear Mode Door Travel/Range Too Large

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is greater than expected.
Rear Mode Door Travel/Range Too Small
Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is less than expected.
Rear Mode Potentiometer Circuit Open

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module reads rear mode selector switch value of more than 250 counts.
Rear Mode Potentiometer Circuit Shorted

Monitored with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module reads rear mode selector switch value of less than 5 counts.
Recirculation Door Not Responding

Monitored with ignition switch in RUN position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive feedback pulses within 5 seconds for the time the drive voltage was applied.
Recirculation Door Travel/Range Too Large

Monitored with ignition switch in RUN position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is greater than expected.
Recirculation Door Travel/Range Too Small
Monitored with ignition switch in RUN position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module monitors door travel/range during system initialization, and the measured travel/range is less than expected.
Refrigeration Pressure Message missing
Monitored every 8 seconds, with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module expects an A/C pressure sensor signal and does not receive the signal within maximum time allowed.
Vehicle Odometer Message Missing

Monitored every 8 seconds, with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message will set when ATC module does not receive vehicle odometer message from Powertrain Control Module (PCM) for more than 5 seconds.
Vehicle Speed/RPM Missing
Monitored every 8 seconds, with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message will set when ATC module does not receive vehicle odometer message from Powertrain Control Module (PCM) for more than 5 seconds.
VF Dimming Message Missing

Monitored every 8 seconds, with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive Vacuum Florescent (VF) dimming message from Body Control Module (BCM) within 8 seconds.
VIN Message Missing

Monitored every 8 seconds, with ignition switch in ON position. DTC/fault message sets when ATC module does not receive Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) message within 8 seconds.

7/12/2008
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Saturday, July 12th, 2008 AT 10:30 PM
Tiny
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Check cabin air filter
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Sunday, July 13th, 2008 AT 9:09 PM
Tiny
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GreenEyedGirl,

Did you find the problem? Im having the same problem and would love some help.

Thanks
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Thursday, October 9th, 2008 AT 3:46 AM
Tiny
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I have exact same problem, and I'm yet to find the real problem, it seems that the actuators are working when I switch from hot to cold in both sides
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