Car cranks but will not start up?

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DJESSIE
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2002 Honda Accord 4 cyl Wheel Drive Type unknown Automatic 80000 miles

I recently had my transmission replaced on my 02' Honda Accord LX at 78k miles. A day later my car would not start (battery purchased in the summmer). It started on a jump. The next day it would not start. It started on a jump. Now it is monday and Auto Zone stated my battery checked out and so did my alternator. The next morning it would not start, not even on a jump. I took it to the Honda dealership and they could not find anything wrong with it. They checked the batter, alternator and starter. They told me they could do a diagnostic on the ignition switch but it would be $100. I declined and drove to work. It would not start after work and had to leave it. The next morning it started and I drove it the the Honda Dealership where it has been for almost a week. The keep telling me it starts for them. I have a feeling it has something to do with when they took out and replaced the transmission. I may be wrong. The diagnostic on the ignition switch they talked about, my mechanic stated there is no diagnostic. They will simple try to start it up from time to time and just want $100 out of me (He used to me a Honda mechanic for years). When I asked them if they have checked the inition switch electrical part to the lock cylinder and the immobilizer. They hadn't. Their way is going over to the car and turning the key. They did mention they are able to remove the key when in nuetral and reverse. Something that has never happened to me. This has nothing to do with the car not starting. There are no clicks or nothing. No sound and all the dash lights light up. I just won't turn over when turning the key. Any ideas?
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I'm a little confused why "your" mechanic isn't working on it.

It can't properly be diagnosed if it keeps starting, when it isn't starting, you can find where the power stops going to. That is the diagnosing that your mechanic states doesn't exist. Diagnosing is troubleshooting and is very real. Until the source is determined, only then can there be a determination on any connection to the transmission.

By asking them to check a list of possiblilities would be wasting your diagnositic dollars as they are obviously good at this moment because it starts.
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
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My car will not start after it sits in the sun for a period of time, it will turn over but will not fire, then if I go back when the sun goes down and temperatures go down then it starts first try?
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
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Hi fieldale,

When engine could not be started, you need to check what is missing. For this symptom, the most likely cause would be fuel is not getting to the cylinders. Check the fuel pump relay.
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:52 PM (Merged)
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2002 Honda Acord 2Door - V6 Vtech, 150K

Hey guys, my Honda has not been feeling well as of late. Last year I got my transmission rebuilt and all seemed weel. Until a few days later when the car would not start. (It would act like it wanted to start and did not make the clicking sound like if a battery is dead, but made the normal starting sounds. It just would not kick in). I waited a few minutes as to not flood the engine, tried again and the car started fine. I did not think much of it until it happened again about a month later. It happens about once a month and is not the big of an inconvenience. That is until recently. Now, every once in a while (about once a month) when driving and I come to a stop, the car dies (like when driving a manual and forgetting to push the clutch when stooping) and then it won't start until I wait for another few minutes.

Any ideas as to what is going on?
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:53 PM (Merged)
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Scan for codes check fuel pressure and clean throttle plate with choke cleaner on both sides. If it won't start check your starter relay and battery condition.
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:53 PM (Merged)
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Check you ignition switch, fuel pump relay and fuel pump, which could be failing.
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Monday, September 28th, 2020 AT 1:53 PM (Merged)
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I have a 2002 Honda Accord LX with 60, 00, which has been very reliable until it didn't start one day. It has plently battery seeing that radio, lights and headlights work.

When I turn the key, the engine tries to start but it doesn't come alive. I'm not even sure which parts of the car areresponsible for starting the engine so im not sure what is wrong with it. Thank you.
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Wednesday, September 30th, 2020 AT 11:30 AM (Merged)
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This could be quite a number of things. When you start to diagnose you want to look for spark and fuel. Is there spark at the plugs? Is there fuel flowing to the injectors and thus the cylinders? It could be a failed sensor or relay. Start with the basics mentioned above.
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Wednesday, September 30th, 2020 AT 11:30 AM (Merged)
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I have replaced the fuel pump fuel relay switch, distributor cap and rotor button. It started for a moment with starter fluid but not on its own.
Is there a fuel cut off switch I need to find or any suggestions?
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:56 AM (Merged)
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Hi and thanks for using 2CarPros.

There isn't a fuel shut off. Can you hear the pump run? Have you confirmed fuel pressure?

First, I would check fuel pressure to confirm the pump is working. It could be working and not producing. Here is a quick link that shows how to check:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

Here are the specific directions including specs:

Fuel Pressure Test

Special Tools Required
- Fuel pressure gauge 07406-0040001
- Fuel pressure gauge attachment 07VAJ-0040100

1. Relieve the fuel pressure.

See picture 1
2. Use a wrench to remove the fuel pulsation damper from its fitting, then attach the fuel pressure gauge attachment.

See picture 2

3. Attach the fuel pressure gauge.
4. Disconnect the vacuum hose (A) from the fuel pressure regulator (B) and pinch it closed with a clamp (C).
5. Start the engine and let it idle.
- If the engine starts, go to step 7
- If the engine does not start, go to step 6.

6. Check to see if the fuel pump is running: Remove the fuel fill cap and listen to the fuel fill Port while an assistant turns the ignition switch ON (II). You should hear the pump run for about 2 seconds when the ignition is turned ON (II).

- If the fuel pump runs, go to step 7.
- If the fuel pump does not run, test it.

7. Read the pressure gauge (with the fuel pressure regulator vacuum hose disconnected and clamped). The pressure should be 320 - 370 kPa (3.3 - 3.8 kgf/sq.cm, 47 - 54 psi).

- If the pressure is OK and engine is running, go to step 8. If the engine is not running, repair the cause, then continue this test.
- If the pressure is out of spec, go to step 9.

8. With the engine running, unpinch and reconnect the vacuum hose, and read the gauge again. The pressure should be 260 - 310 kPa (2.7 - 3.2 kgf/sq.cm, 38 - 46 psi).

- If the fuel pressure is OK, the test is complete.
- If the pressure is out of spec, go to step 9.

9. Disconnect the vacuum hose from the pressure regulator again while you watch the pressure gauge. The pressure should rise when you disconnect the hose.

- If the pressure did not rise, replace the fuel pressure regulator.
- If the pressure rose, but all your readings were lower than specified, check for a clogged fuel filter and for leaks in the fuel lines.
- If the pressure rose, but all your readings were higher than specified, check for a pinched or clogged fuel return hose or line.

10. Reconnect the vacuum hose, remove the pressure gauge, and reinstall the fuel pulsation damper with a new washer. Tighten the fuel pulsation damper to 22 N.m (2.2 kgf.m, 16 lbf.ft).

NOTE: Disassemble and clean the fuel pressure gauge attachment thoroughly after use.

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Since it starts with starting fluid, then you are getting spark. With that in mind, if fuel pressure is within spec, then we need to check for an injector pulse. Here is a link showing how that is done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-fuel-injection-systems-work

Here are a few links that may help with testing:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

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Next, check fuse number 1 in the under dash fuse / relay box. See picture 3

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-car-fuse-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

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Do these tests and let me know what you find. Note: When checking the fuse, confirm there is power to it as well as out from it.

Take care,
Joe
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:56 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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2002 hon civic(1.7?) Just konc out after starter? My son has runn it out of gas an almost alot of times Could it be a fuel pump?
On very limited budget!
Thanks. Bernadette bmofield@hotmail. Com
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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It had a overheating prob. And we kept changing hoses and had a previous water pump(1 yr.?) Saw sm amount of white on top of radiator cap when it was doing all that "getting hot"
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
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https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

The above link explains what to look for under such circumstances.

Once you get the source, let me know what is missing and we can get to resolving the problem.

Fuel pump tends to go bad much easier when fuel tank level is low most of the time and that could be the likely cause.

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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
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The overheating could have damaged the head gaskets and not allow the engine to start if the compression has dropped.

I believe you have a bad radiator cap as well, the presence of coolant on top of it indicates so.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thanks very much i'll let you know after tomarrows trouble shooting
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
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Has the problem been resolved?
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
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Thankyou so much for asking. My husband put in liquid glass napprox. 2 months ago and it's been running alright. (He had draininf fluids and all your supposed to do. Now the other day it started acting hot and we went to the spot to pick it up and were able to drive it about 4 minutes back home. Husband fiquired out that the water pump is hanging out? Augh. Looked up when I put in the water pump and timing belt (which was a yr. Ago tomarrow) bought at local parts store it does have a warranty but its like 3-400 dollars to replace that! Awe!
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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If the water pump is leaking, a pressure test should show some results.
It is difficult to say about the quality of after market parts so it is best to test them out.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:57 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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He is researching
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