Cold start misfire

Tiny
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Hi,

I have been chasing cylinder misfire for a while now. After getting error code P301 (29CD) changed coil pack (one was worn out) and spark plugs.

Did not solve the issue. Next morning started up car. Got misfire on cylinder one and four with codes P300, P301, P304 and more specifically code P2ED2 and P29D0 (guessing they are just BMW specific codes).
However, after two minutes when I restart the engine EML goes off and car runs fine with a engine vibration.

Could it be vacuum issues or injector?
Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 1:42 AM

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Tiny
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Hi and thanks for using 2CarPros.

This is a tough one for me because the 318 isn't offered in the US, so my technical information is limited.

However, I have a couple suggestions. First, switch the coil packs with different cylinders to see if the misfire changes. If it doesn't, then check and confirm fuel pressure is within the manufacturer's specs as well as check for engine vacuum leaks.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-an-engine-vacuum-gauge

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

If both are good, then I need you to get a live data scanner and determine of the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor is functioning correctly. The ECT tells the computer the temperature of the engine coolant. If, for example, it tells the computer the temp is -20 degrees F and in reality it is 80 degrees F, the computer will change the fuel mixture so the engine can run under the extreme cold which would allow too much fuel to enter the engine under the actual conditions.

Let me know if any of this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care and I wish you a Happy New Year.

Joe
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Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 9:55 PM
Tiny
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Hi Joe,

Much appreciated for the reply.

I have changed all four coil pack and sparks as one of the coil was damaged, however the issue is still there after cold start.

Could it be the injector.

The engine runs fine after two minutes and restart ignition.
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Monday, December 31st, 2018 AT 1:27 AM
Tiny
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Hi and welcome back:

It could be an issue with fuel pressure, an injector, or even the engine coolant temperature sensor, vacuum leak. You could check for an injector leak issue by testing fuel pressure drop off.
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Monday, December 31st, 2018 AT 3:21 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Anything to do with intake manifold gasket? Intake valve?
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Monday, December 31st, 2018 AT 3:51 PM
Tiny
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An intake gasket that leaks will allow too much air enter the combustion chamber, so yes. That could be the issue. I attached a link above that shows how to check for a leak.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Monday, December 31st, 2018 AT 4:15 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I have attached a few images of readings that I took using OBD scanner on a cold start.

Could there be a 02 sensor fault on cold start causing misfire?

Coolant level seems to be fine so does vacuum operating gauge. Can I rule out vacuum leak? And CTS seems fine as well as it is reading correct temperature but my car does not blow hot air. Any suggestions?
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Tuesday, January 1st, 2019 AT 4:06 AM
Tiny
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Hi and welcome back:

The idea that it is working in a closed loop is normal at start up. I noticed that the O2 sensors are incomplete. Basically, that means the codes have been cleared and the system has not completed a drive cycle (driven far enough) to reset that portion of the emissions readiness.

If you can, send me pictures of the STFT (short term fuel trims) and LTFT from the scanner. I may have a better idea of a vacuum leak with that. Also, you could still have a vacuum leak regardless. I'm not sure why you have no heat. It could be a plugged heater core or even a blend air door issue. If the blend air door isn't working and IF it is actuated by engine vacuum, that may be both the vacuum leak and the heater problem.

I feel really bad that I don't have a manual to look through for this vehicle. Let me know if any of this helps. Also, sometimes, you are able to hear a hissing sound when there is a vacuum leak. With the engine running, listen under the dash and around the heater control unit for a hissing. Also, do the same under the hood.

Joe
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Tuesday, January 1st, 2019 AT 4:47 PM
Tiny
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Hi, I also noticed a ticking/tapping sound from around the intake manifold area, and can see little puddle of oil seating next to the manifold connectors and wires. What should be the intake temperature?

My scanner fails to pick up STFT and LTFT.

P.S BMW engine N43 are known for vacuum leaks.
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Wednesday, January 2nd, 2019 AT 1:49 AM
Tiny
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Where you hear a ticking, could it be a gasket leak?
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Wednesday, January 2nd, 2019 AT 4:15 PM
Tiny
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I am not sure I am asking you.
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Wednesday, January 2nd, 2019 AT 4:34 PM
Tiny
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That's hard for me to answer not being there. I have heard vacuum leaks sound like a tick. Follow the link I first listed related to vacuum. It shows how to test if it is a leak. If you can record and upload the audio as well as a picture of the affected area, it would be helpful. Without the technical information I normally have, I need to see exactly what you are dealing with. I have no reference.
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Wednesday, January 2nd, 2019 AT 6:06 PM

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