2004 Chevy Impala tie rod

Tiny
JOELZAK
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  • 2004 CHEVROLET IMPALA
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 42,349 MILES
Need to replace the tie rod.(The rod itself)
How do I remove the tie rod?
The new one is flattened for a crows foot to get around it
The stock tie rod is not flattened for a crows foot.
So what do I use to remove the inner tie rod with?
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Friday, February 6th, 2009 AT 11:20 PM

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Tiny
BLUELIGHTNIN6
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Need a tie rod puller. Procedures are below for removal and replacement.

REMOVAL:
Raise and safely support the vehicle.
The outer tie rod ends may be retained to the steering knuckle by either a slotted nut and cotter pin or a torque-prevailing nut. If a slotted nut and cotter pin is used, remove and discard the cotter pin and remove the slotted nut.
If a torque prevailing nut is used, remove the nut from the tie rod end's ball stud at the wheel knuckle. GM specifies that this torque prevailing nut be discarded and a new torque prevailing nut be used at assembly. Most service replacement tie rod ends come with new hardware.
The position of the tie rod ends determines the toe angle of the steering alignment. To get the replacement tie rod end positioned as closely as possible to the original tie rod end's position, the jam nut's position should be marked. Some technicians, after thoroughly wire-brushing the jam nut and the inner tie rod shaft threads, will mark one flat of the jam nut with paint. Then, the jam nut is loosened exactly one turn.
Remove the tie rod end from the wheel knuckle. GM says that the tapered joint of the ball stud has been designed to separate easily, unlike previous joints of this type. If required, use a tie rod puller to separate the tie rod end from the wheel knuckle.
Unscrew the tie rod end from the inner tie rod shaft. Do not disturb the jam nut. It should have been loosened one turn only from its original position.

INSTALLATION:
Clean all parts well. Make sure mating surfaces of the stud and knuckle are clean.
Thread the replacement tie rod end onto the inner tie rod shaft until it just touches the jam nut. Loosen the tie rod end exactly one turn.
Install the tie rod end ball stud to the wheel knuckle. If equipped with a torque prevailing nut, tighten to 18 ft. Lbs. (25 Nm). Tighten the nut an additional 180 degrees (one-half turn). If equipped with a slotted nut for a cotter pin, tighten the retaining nut to 45 ft. Lbs. (60 Nm) maximum to align the cotter pin slot. DO NOT back off (loosen) the nut to align the slots in the nut with the cotter pin hole in the ball stud. Install a new cotter pin.
Turn the jam nut one turn. This should tighten the jam nut against the end of the tie rod threaded portion. Tighten the jam nut to 50 ft. Lbs. (68 Nm).
Check that the rubber rack and pinion dust boot is not twisted or puckered.
Have a front end alignment performed at a qualified shop.

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Friday, February 6th, 2009 AT 11:34 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for explaining how to replace the outer tie rod end. But I got that down, its the inner tie rod.
The rod itself is bent and its got to go.
So when I removed the boot, I realized that the housing wasnt flattened at all for any crows foot. It is perfectly round so anyone have any suggestions how or what I need to use to unscrew that bugger off.
Thank you
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Saturday, February 7th, 2009 AT 4:09 AM
Tiny
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Okay, sorry about that. Below are the inner tie rod removal instructions. If you still have problems just let me know..


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Saturday, February 7th, 2009 AT 6:22 PM
Tiny
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Bluelightnin6 you have been big help.
This is my first inner tie rod replacement and am not too familar with staking are there staking tools to make this job easier or any tips?
And again thanks for the info you couldnt have been more clearer.
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Sunday, February 8th, 2009 AT 2:18 AM
Tiny
BLUELIGHTNIN6
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Need a hammer and punch. Make sure to use a wooden block to support the opposite side of the rack and inner tie-rod end while staking. (pictured below)


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Sunday, February 8th, 2009 AT 2:36 AM
Tiny
JOELZAK
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Here is a picture of the inner tie rod housing. In thew instructions you gave me the wrench will work on the new housing that i have but will not on the stock housing. Look at this picture and get back to me on what tool i use on the stock inner tie rod housing:


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/311287_inner_housing_tie_rod_green_1.jpg



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Saturday, February 14th, 2009 AT 4:32 PM
Tiny
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Once the lock nut is backed off and the tie rod is disconnected from the steering arm, hook the ring spanner over the threaded end. Then turn it off.
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Saturday, February 14th, 2009 AT 6:04 PM
Tiny
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Hello all you have to do is remove that outer coating (plastic) and the tool just slide right in if you have the apropriate size.
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Saturday, February 14th, 2009 AT 6:09 PM
Tiny
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Since I will be staking with everything installed in the car.
Should I worry about supporting or just stake it?
If supporting is a must any suggestions how with a limited amount of room.
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Wednesday, February 18th, 2009 AT 1:35 AM
Tiny
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Ok im about ready to do my first inner tie rod and everyone has been big help.
Now im worried about staking my housing with it installed in the car.
How do you suggest I support it from being damaged while staking?
Any tricks, or is it cool to just stake it?
Not much room for anything.
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Friday, February 20th, 2009 AT 12:39 AM
Tiny
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Should I be concerned with staking my housing on my inner tie rod while it is installed in the car, and if so what tricks or technique do I use to keep from damaging anything. Thanks for the help
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Friday, February 20th, 2009 AT 3:10 AM
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First check to see if the rods are equipped with holes to do the staking in the first place. If it does, then just support the rack while you're staking.
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Friday, February 20th, 2009 AT 9:55 PM
Tiny
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You have helped me more than you know. And if I had it I would donate. Thank you
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Friday, February 27th, 2009 AT 10:16 PM

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