My 88 Camaro will not start

Tiny
THOPE3
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  • 1988 CHEVROLET CAMARO
I have a 1988 chevy iroc-z that I but in a 350 over 30 in it. But can not get the starter right. I mean the starter only hits the edge of the flywheel I tried to shim it but it was worse. What can I do or get to make the starter bit more of the fly wheel. Also when I had the car running it would run for about 10 mins than would shut off by itself. Is this a vaper lock? Or do I need to put in a elec. Fuel punp. Note stock it bypasses by a manuel fuel pump off the block.
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Thursday, July 26th, 2007 AT 11:23 PM

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Tiny
RASMATAZ
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The way I do it is manually engage the starter to the flexplate eyeball it closely now use your head is to how to get it real close with the shims.

Noise during cranking ur too far-noise for a few sec's after cranking and engine fire too! Close

Stalling you have to determine whether its fuel or spark.
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Friday, July 27th, 2007 AT 4:49 AM
Tiny
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First off, I've rarely seen any chevy that needed shims at the starter. 99% are bolted up direct. The only time I've ever seen shims used was in modified vehicles where the flywheel and engines were of different 'sizes' or years. You say you have an 88 camaro, did the 350 you put in come out of an 88? Next thing, is this a stick or automatic? Different years as well as stick or automatic use different drive end housings on the starters. Some bolt straight across, some are diagonal. If you remove your starter and look at the flat part of the engine block where the starter mounts, you'll see what I'm talking about. There will be 3 bolt holes there, of which you're only going to use 2. Which 2 dependends on the starter.
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 6:36 PM
Tiny
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Not sure of the year on motor or trans. Trans is auto. And bolt pattern are on a diagonal.
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 7:09 PM
Tiny
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OK, Then is the starter you are using from your original engine, or did it come with the engine and trans you put in?
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 7:24 PM
Tiny
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The stater is brand new I called a few part store and the maker of the stater I bought they said fits a gm 350 and he told me there where only two that would work. The frist one I put on and would not even toucj the fly wheel the scond one the one I have on there now barly touchs the fly wheeland is stripping the teeth on the fly wheel.
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 7:35 PM
Tiny
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Now start shimming it and get to.060 and your done.
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 8:22 PM
Tiny
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Now start shimming it and get to .060 and your done.[/quote:54da602bfc]

rasmataz: You are reading this ... right? If the starter is 'barely' touching the flywheel teeth, then 'shimming' the starter is going to move it farther away, making it worse.

As for there being 'only 2 starters that will work' , that's because you're probably telling them it's an 88 camaro .... Do you know what the engine and trans came out of? Another camaro, impala, monte carlo, van .... And did it come out of another chevy? buick, pontiac .... The starter you've probably got right now looks like this -


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/30372_393510MSN01_1.jpg

A1 Cardone #39-3510MSN right? ..... Have you tried this one? -


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/30372_393838SN01_1.jpg

part# 39-3838SN
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 8:41 PM
Tiny
THOPE3
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Not sure what the motor came out of? It is a gm motor.
I tried a d-3510ms
but what is in there now is d-3733ms
it needs a longer top to hit the fly wheel.
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 9:03 PM
Tiny
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Well according to A1 Cardone, the starter you have in there (3733) only came in GM Trucks Whereas the 39-3838SN came in numerous gm cars and trucks from 64 til now. If you look up the 88 camaro 5.7 (350) Automatic starter, 39-3838SN is the number you'll get.
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Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 11:39 PM
Tiny
RASMATAZ
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Did you do what I've told you-manually engage the starter drive to the flexplate check the clearance-eyeball it -you might not believe it I use 8 shims on a 76 blazer 350 to get it to stab. I ate 3 starters before I can get it right, you just have to play around with it to get it right.

Motor yr unknown-look on the rear of the engine the no.S are there and go match it.
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2007 AT 12:25 AM
Tiny
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So what starter should I use in my car?
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2007 AT 11:47 AM
Tiny
RASMATAZ
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Get the no.S on the rear of the engine near the distributor and go match up. They have the list.I know what you going thru-go find the old school people in chevy's they should know. Did you inspect the flexplate for warpage?
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2007 AT 4:35 PM
Tiny
KIN CHAN
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Raz!1. Go back to toyota section. Ur customer is lookin for u.N also that poor guy on overheating.U probably get him busy till next yr.I was thinkin u kinda service writer. Now u are a parts guy. Hehh heh heh.I better go. Too much old school for me.I like no school
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2007 AT 4:53 PM
Tiny
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Casting # 460776 on motor
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2007 AT 8:17 PM

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