Brakes are not responding at all?

Tiny
INIMICAL ATCHLEY
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  • 2000 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX
  • 3.8L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 117,000 MILES
After pulling out of a store the other day I noticed my brakes hissing at me. And they were not doing anything as I applied pressure to the pedal. Not even pumping the hell out of them provoked any sign of a response. Cleaned the lines out, refilled and bled the brakes. Still Nothing.
I replaced the brake booster and thought that should do it. Well, they are no longer hissing at me making that mocking air sound, but I still cannot get them to respond. I checked each of the calipers. I even pulled the hoses off. There is fluid coming out of them but no matter what I have tried the calipers do not respond to me.
The caliper's function if they are not on the vehicle but I do not know what else to replace or adjust. I have been struggling with this for the last 10 days. Still cannot figure out what else to do.

Also, I'm not sure what the other port is for between the two lines running to the back brakes on the ABS block or whatever it is the lines all come together at. And brake lights are now stuck on, so I have been unhooking the battery. They stay on even when the car is off. Hoping that it is just the pedal switch. But you never know.

Any help or suggestions about what to do or change out next would be appreciated. Should I replace the Master? I'm not sure if this is an issue with one of the valves inside being stuck open or closed, or even how to narrow it down.
I thought the process of deduction would have helped me out a bit more, but I feel as if I am just circling the drain with this car now.
Tuesday, April 25th, 2023 AT 9:55 PM

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Tiny
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Yep, the brake master is what I was going to recommend. Here is a guide that should help, and I have included how to change the brake master out. Make sure you bench bleed the master before installation.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-pedal-goes-to-the-floor

Also, check the caliper slides to make sure they are not seized.

https://youtu.be/WDxvEQrMkBg

Check out the images (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem so we can see what's going on.

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Thursday, April 27th, 2023 AT 11:12 AM

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