I have spongy brakes?

Hello there Ken, How are you? I am ok. And let me first start off by saying thank you for sending that guide. That is always helpful. But I found out today that my back brakes wear completely broken. My brake shoe self-adjuster was broken completely apart and the parts to that was inside of the brake drum and it put a deep cut type groove in the brake drum. And it messed up the brake shoes too. The repair guy said when ever I would hit my brakes I basically had none in the back. He also said it was a good thing my front disc brakes where working is because he said I would have ran into something if it wasn't for those. He also said that it looks like my back brakes have been in this shape for some time too. The last time I replace all of my brakes pads and shoes was 4 yrs ago. So now I have to buy so more brake drums and shoes on both sides. The price of the repair was $480.00. But the brakes no long go to the floor and he did state that I need to get my new brake shoes asap or my van will get back in this shape once again. And to answer your question is the ABS module is still install. Yes it is. It better be, I sure didn't ask him to remove it. Another thing now too is. My check engine light wasn't on before but now it is etc. That's why I hate leaving repair places is because you don't know what they are doing to your vehicle while your gone etc. My ride that helped me get back and to the garage hates waiting but its worth sticking around to watch if they let you etc.

I bet it would have. To bad I can't get to it to see (wheelchair etc). :-( I am sure glad you guys have this website. You just don't know how happy I am to see it up and running and always sorry for posting a new post on this old subject I notice you moved my message to my other post. I tried doing so but I couldn't find it. :-) With him messing with the brakes etc would that make the check engine light come on again? Because it sure wasn't on before they repaired it. Oh by the way, when it comes to using car / truck scanners is it best to just start the vehicle and scan for codes or just turn the key on and not start it and then look for codes? I ask my friend that and he said its best not to start the car / truck all the way. I disagree. Who's right here? If I am wrong then I am wrong I just want to do it properly etc lol

Ok. I will. And thank you for your help on the brake problem. :-)

But I do have one more brake question. I read where someone wrote that to test your brake booster all you have to do is get in your vehicle etc. Turn on the vehicle and then press your brake and then turn off your vehicle and if you can hold your brake down for at least 30 secs that means your brake booster is good. Is this true? Because I tried it and my brakes pedal starting to push against me almost immediately. Then I asked a friend of mine and he said that I was doing the process in reverse. Then he said this is the way to do it. With the engine off, pump the brake pedal several times. This depletes any residual vacuum in the booster. The brake pedal should get harder with each pump.
Hold the brake pedal down (press firmly) and then start the engine. If the brake booster is working correctly, the pedal should sink slightly as the engine starts.
This is because the engine creates vacuum that assists the booster, reducing pedal effort. Is that way the right way? Have you heard of this process before? This is the first time I read about it and heard about it.

Ok cool. I did the second test I was telling you about and when I turned on the van the brake pedal sink slightly too. I was happy to see that but I will try your test too. You are talking about the plug on the firewall that is black and has a white dot in the middle of it correct? And here is something I did once I got home in driving up my driveway. I gave my van kinda alot of gas and then press the brake pedal kinda hard this time and then my van started to run kinda rough. Any idea what they could be? I have brake sure enough but that's what happened after I did that.

Ok. Here I go. :-) And here are the codes for the brakes C1230 read center wheel speed sensor input circuit fault & C1229 rear wheel speed sensor inconsistent It had 3 other codes but I can't seem to find them on my scanner.

I have brakes but the follow error codes have shown up now. I thought you might wanted to see the error codes. Also I created a new CEL thread but when I try and click on it it says error and won't pull up. This is the first time I have ever seen this many error codes for brakes

Not a problem I created a new thread. :-) Cheers