Brake pedal vibration

Tiny
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  • 2012 NISSAN TIIDA
  • 1.8L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 99,419 MILES
This car got Brake Pedal Vibration when the car in driving mode "D" but stopped and pressed the brake its start vibrating, not the whole car, only the brake pedal

So, I have been advised to replace the brake pad set in both right and left wheels, but the issue remains the same.

Any suggestions and solutions for this?

Thanks
Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 12:31 AM

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Tiny
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Okay, you are saying the pedal vibrates when you try to stop the car? And is it only the pedal and not the steering wheel or vibration in the seat? If so, it sounds like the ABS system is activating at low speed when it shouldn't be. That will cause a vibration and sometimes a buzzing sound as the system engages. The issue then is tracking down what is turning on the system as it can be any of the 4-wheel speed sensors. About the easiest way to find out would be to use a scan tool and watch the wheel speeds reported as live data, what you are looking for would be one sensor that is reading much slower or zero compared to the other tires. So, say you are moving at 20 kph and slow down, you see all 4 at 10 kph, but suddenly the left rear reads zero, that would mean it is dropping out. As such the ABS system thinks that tire is now sliding and it will activate in order to allow the tire to start rolling again, but with a bad sensor or harness the signal doesn't change and it stays on.
Really there is no other way to find which one is failing unless you have an oscilloscope and the data for a good sensor.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 11:38 AM
Tiny
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Dear Steve W.
Expert Mechanic.

I'm very sorry because you might not get my question clearly or maybe I don't know how to explain this correctly + I'm not a Native English speaker though.

Anyhow, if really there's an ABS system in my car, why can't I see its sign in my car's dashboard / system along with other signs.

I'm stopping the car and my leg on the brakes where the car is on but stopped by brake only, it gets this Vibration just on the brake pedal but not in the seat or wheel or any other place.

So, if we assume that the issue is one of the 4 sensors, Can I go ahead and check the car system by computer checking?

Moreover, this issue of brake pedal wasn't there before one year or so. It's a new issue just pumped out on my face.

However, I really understood the function of a sensor when it's going to die or get damaged, the car starts giving you some sort of signs so you might replace the damaged sensor.
The same issue with RPMs in a different question/thread, the sensor it might damage because it tells me that the 2nd and 3rd gear are having an issue after computer checking done. That's why it received a faulty reading of the gears temp or function of them.
However, I wonder if the sensor was the issue or not, but after changing the speed sensor, the car now is much better than before.

Thanks.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 10:33 PM
Tiny
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The way the ABS system operates is by reading the wheel speeds at each corner of the car. If it thinks one is moving slower it activates. This will not turn on the ABS light or set an error code, as the system is working as it should. A common cause for this is a dirty connection in the harness or rust or other issue with the sensor itself which makes the signal weak. They work by generating a small voltage and sine wave signal as the tire rotates, it's just that one corner is generating a weaker signal. Sort of like having two lights, one with new batteries the other with worn out ones. Both still work so there is no error, but one has a bright light, the other dim.
In this case the computer can see the signals from both sensors, but the dim one fades out very fast. The ABS system suddenly thinks that one tire is sliding and activates.
Because they are all still working there is no error as there would be if the wires were broken or shorted, both of those would result in no signal and the system would see that and the light would come on.

From the second part you answered for the other question, did this brake pedal issue start at the same time or after the sensor you replaced? It's possible that the car needs a recalibration if it did as many times the control systems will learn and save the values of each sensor and a sudden change can cause odd symptoms.
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Monday, January 24th, 2022 AT 3:46 AM
Tiny
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Hi Steve,

Well, to be honest, I'm not really sure if this issue happens before or after replacing the sensor. However, I've replaced the sensor because the tachometer (RPM) as well as the gears are playing (malfunction).
The RPMs were going very high because the gears aren't easy shifting from gear to gear, as per the codes (computer checking) shows that, the reason is the "Speed vehicle sensor" as we already talked about.
So, at that time, my only concern is to solve this issue. That's why I replaced the sensor.

But yes, perhaps the issue of the brake pedal vibrate is coming after replacing the sensor (I think so).

Right now, the fuelaccelerate pedal seems to be a bit harder than before which leads me to apply more pressure on it in order to accelerate the vehicle.

Moreover, the vehicle is accelerating fine, and the tachometer reads (3K rpm) @ 140 KMH which is fine as well.

So, what could be the reason behind the brake pedal being vibrating when I stop the car by pressing the pedal?

Have a nice day, gentleman.
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Thursday, February 3rd, 2022 AT 2:44 AM
Tiny
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It will take using a scan tool to watch the speeds from each of the wheel speed sensors, I suspect that one of them is reading differently than the rest. It doesn't need to be much, just enough to make the ABS unit think a tire is sliding even a small amount. I've seen it caused by a bad speed sensor on one of the wheels, or corrosion under a sensor or other corrosion in connections. The first thing is to use a dealer level scan tool and watch the reported speeds at all 4 tires.
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Thursday, February 3rd, 2022 AT 2:54 AM

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