My battery light is on

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OLYMPIA9022
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  • 2009 HONDA ACCORD
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My battery light came on. I had the battery checked and it is fine, only three months old. I replaced the alternator, but the light is still on. All of my terminals are clean as well. Any suggestions?
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Thursday, February 7th, 2019 AT 6:45 AM

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Tiny
SCGRANTURISMO
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Hello,

This might be a problem with the serpentine belt tensioner. I have included a guide and a the diagrams below a charging system flowchart that should enable you to track down the problem. Go through it and let us know what you find out.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-alternator

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.
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Thursday, February 7th, 2019 AT 4:19 PM
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RICHARD ROEHR
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I had to get a new alternator the guide helped me find the problem. What great site!
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM
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ANDYYOO91
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MY 2007 honda civic si drove on a ditch and battery lights, vbs light came on. I tried jump starting it which started but it died almost immediate

tried jump starting for about 20 minutes for dies in 2 minutes, never happened like this before None of those lights were on before the incident.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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You need to have the computer scanned to identify why the lights are on. It should lead you to the problem. Most parts stores will do it for free.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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SANDMAN1
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About a month ago my battery light started coming on intermittently at low RPM or idle, usually during temperatures 15-30 F. I had the battery & alternator checked, at idle and under load and they were perfect. The problem is persisting and getting more frequent, headlights dim when battery light comes on, but only stays on for a short time. Battery connections are good and battery ground is good. Any good ideas?
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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CARADIODOC
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Any testing of the generator must be done while the problem is occurring, otherwise it will test good. With the mileage you listed, you can expect to find worn brushes inside the generator. They will cause an intermittent no-charge condition, and it could go on like that for months.

I don't know which brand of generator is used on your car. If you can see it and you see "Nippendenso" on it, I can post some pictures of how to replace the brush assembly if you can find one. Most people just replace the entire generator. I can also share how to test it for worn brushes but you'll need a test light or an inexpensive digital voltmeter, and you'll have to wait with the testing until the problem acts up.

Don't overlook the possibility of snow or water getting on the serpentine belt and forming ice that makes it slip. That would occur at engine start-up, not after you've been driving for a while.

Caradiodoc
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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JESSCARTER214
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My car has no sign of life at all. I thought it was a dead battery so I replaced with a new one and still nothing. I noticed the last time I moved it from outside into the garage it sounded different and my battery light was on.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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So you have a no crank no start?Or no crank no start?
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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CJ MEDEVAC
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SAT9 MEANT NO CRANK AT ALL----OR IT DOES CRANK, JUST WON'T BUST OFF AND RUN

'CEPT HE WAS TRYING TO USE MECHANIC TERMINOLOGY AND HIS LAST PART SHOULDA SAID."OR CRANKS, BUT WON'T START"!

THE MEDIC
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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Thanks for the correction lol.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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EKOSTE
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My battery light stays on all the time until you drive the car and get the rpm's above 2000. When it comes down below 2000 it comes on again. I have changed the alternator and belt and have also clean the battery cables. I had an alternator shop check out the charging system and they said it was working normal. Battery also is good. Got any ideas? Oh, if I leave it in park or neutral and run the engine up past 2000 rpms it stays on. It only goes out when it is in gear and above 2000 rpm's.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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Try out these tips before going the replacement route; they just may do the trick:

Do a battery cable reset by disconnecting the positive and negative battery cables and touching them together for 15 minutes with the ignition switch turned to ON (II) ENGINE OFF. A battery cable reset forces all capacitors in that component to discharge faster, and it clears and resets the computer memory. If a software glitch is the culprit, a battery cable reset will fix the problem just as effectively as installing a new component would. Before you do this procedure though, make sure the battery has a full charge. A low battery can cause electronic components to not work right or not work at all.

Unplug the connectors from the component, wait a few minutes, and then plug them back in. If a poor connection is the culprit, the simple act of unplugging and plugging in the connector cleans the terminal contact surfaces and usually fixes the problem. While you've got the connector unplugged, look for witness marks on the terminals-they indicate a good, tight fit. If you suspect loose terminals, remove a female terminal and use it like a feeler gauge to check the fit.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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EKOSTE
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Did the battery cable reset. No help. Also cleaned and checked connectors and they checked good. Light still comes on when the car is in drive and rpm's are over about 2300, let off pedal and rpm's drop below 2300 and light comes back on. In park or neutral the light stays on regardless of rpm's. I can accelerate up to 5000 rpm's and the light stays on. So I replaced the alternator and that took care of the problem. Thanks for your help on this I guess the auto parts store was wrong. FYI
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:02 PM (Merged)
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HARLEY B SERRANO
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Oil light on.
Battery light is on.

Belt turns slowly when trying to turn it on.
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:03 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

The lights you mentioned. Do you mean they are on when the engine isn't running or trying to start it? Does the engine sound normal when cranking? If that is the case, the lights are not a concern at this point. Lets start simple. Here is a link that reviews the most common causes of a crank no start condition. See if it helps.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Let me know if that helps or if you have other questions. Additionally, let me know if this happened all at once and what the conditions were when it happened.

Take care,
Joe
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:03 PM (Merged)
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TIM MILLER2
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I had left the lights on for 4 hours and drained the battery. I tried to charge it but it drained quickly. I replaced the battery because it was several years old anyways. The battery light was still coming on and off. I had 2 shops test the charging system. The first one checked all the fuses and found the alternator was overcharging at times up to nearly 20v, but didn't think that was the cause of my battery drain. The second shop found the alternator was overcharging as well around 18+v an said I must replace the alternator before it causes more problems. So I replaced the alternator myself. After charging my new battery, I then installed and tested it and it is at 12.6v and when running its at 14.6v. I turned all the accessories on and the voltage drops minimally as I turn the equipment on. My question is, why is the battery light still coming on? I have seen where someone suggest that a trouble code could be stored and it may need to be cleared before the light will operate normally. Is this possible?
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:03 PM (Merged)
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TIM MILLER2
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Just so you have everything I know about the problem I did run additional load tests. I checked the voltage readings at idle and accelerated rpm's. With accessories on and with them off. Based on my test results and comparing them to my expected results as provided by my Hanes Repair Manual all of my results fall well within the safe and proper reading allowances. I then went to Autozone to see if there are any current engine codes and according to his device there weren't any found. I realize his device was a very basic code reader which doesn't have the ability to read pending codes, history codes or clear the codes anyway. I will be taking the car to a garage tomorrow and hopefully they can check for history codes and give me direction. I really would like your expert opinion on this matter. Please advise. Thank you
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:03 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

Tim, check fuse 21 in the under dash fuse box. It is a 7.5 amp fuse that most likely blew when it was over charging.

See the attached schematic and let me know what you find.

Joe
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:03 PM (Merged)
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SCGRANTURISMO
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Hello,

This could be a problem with the shielding on the highlighted wire that is on the charging circuit wiring diagram that I have included for you in the diagrams down below. I have also included a guide on how to find a short to ground and how to induce intermittent conditions in an automotive electrical circuit for you as well. You will need to use a Digital Multi-meter to use these guides, so here is a link below explaining how to use one, if needed:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

If the shielding around the wire is okay then there is also a possibility of an intermittent short to ground in the highlighted wire in between ECM/PCM and the gauge control module causing the warning light to illuminate. Please go through these guides and get back to us with what you are able to find out.

Thanks,
Alex
2CarPros
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Tuesday, August 25th, 2020 AT 12:03 PM (Merged)
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TIM MILLER2
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I checked the #21 fuse and it was not blown. I will look at the other items you suggested next. Thank you.
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