ABS light, ESP BAS light, traction control light and brake lights turned on at the same time and code C2200

Tiny
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  • 138,000 MILES
Three days ago, me and the wife were driving out of our parking spot and as soon as 100 yards on the road all the lights described above turned on at the same time, next step was to order a OBD2 reader that also reads ABS codes, I found code C2200, antilock breaks module failure?
Upon reading on Jeep forums I discovered that these Jeep's tend to do this quite often, a lot of people recommends checking battery and connections, everything looks good, some people also say to disconnect battery for 10 min and basically reset the computer, I did all of these and the lights are still on, some guys just replaced the speed sensors, all of them or some and they resolved the issue, but usually they got a code pointing towards speed sensors, I would find it interesting if any of these repairs would fix my code since the code I am getting is straight forward C2200.
Should I try replacing sensors first?
Or should I just get a new module and then take it to the dealership so that they can program it?

Thank you.
Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 6:02 PM

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Tiny
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Yeah it's a common failure. If your scan tool can read live data you can check the speed sensors yourself, just select them in the live data and make sure they are all showing the same speed. As for the power connections, unplug the one on the ABS module and check it for corrosion. After that clear the code and see if it pops back up. If it does it is likely the module has failed and requires replacement. There are a few tests the factory scan tool could do but they are not really needed most of the time as the code is an internal failure in the control module.
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 6:45 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

For this code to exist, there is an internal fault within the micro-processor in the ABS module. That code really indicates the module is bad and needs replaced.

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If you take a look through this description, it will better explain what I am saying. It is actually the diagnostics for the code you provided. I have to be honest, there is a 99.9% chance the module needs replaced.

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2008 Jeep Truck Wrangler 4WD V6-3.8L
ABS
Vehicle ALL Diagnostic Trouble Codes ( DTC ) Testing and Inspection C Code Charts C2200 ABS
ABS
C2200-ANTI-LOCK BRAKE MODULE INTERNAL

For a complete wiring diagram Refer to Diagrams/Electrical.

- When Monitored:
Ignition on. The Anti-Lock Brake Module monitors its internal microprocessors for correct operation.

- Set Condition:
If the Anti-lock brake module detects an internal fault, the DTC is set.

Pic 1

Diagnostic Test

1. ABM INTERNAL FAILURE DTC PRESENT
Turn the ignition on.
With the scan tool, read DTCs.
With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
Turn the ignition off.
Turn the ignition on.
With the scan tool, read DTCs.
Does the scan tool display ANTI-LOCK BRAKE MODULE INTERNAL FAILURE?

Yes

- Replace the Anti-Lock Brake Module.
- Perform ABS VERIFICATION TEST. See: A L L Diagnostic Trouble Codes ( DTC ) > Verification Tests > ABS Verification Test.

No

- Perform the ABS Intermittent Condition diagnostic procedure.
- Refer to the ABS-INTERMITTENT CONDITION TEST. See: Antilock Brakes / Traction Control Systems > Component Tests and General Diagnostics > ABS Intermittent Condition Test

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I wish I had better news. Please feel free to let me know if you have questions.

Joe
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 6:50 PM
Tiny
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Thanks Joe, I would like to ask another question if you don't mind. Is it safe for the Jeep to have the module replaced by myself as long as I do it right of course? I know that if I hand it over to the dealership they will probably require me to pay a ridiculously high amount of money for this, I saw a YouTube video of a guy replacing a module and it seems quite simple. The guy said he would then have the Jeep taken to the dealership for them to reprogram it, which would cost him a lot less than having the dealership doing the whole thing.
So, can I do it myself?

Thanks again.
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 6:59 PM
Tiny
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Replacement of just the electronics is easy, the hard part is finding the correct part. Mopar # 68030936AB is just the control module mounted on the control block. Last I checked they run about $275.00 to $300.00 for new. Replacement is disconnect unit, remove 4 screws, remove the unit from the ABS control block, Replace the O-rings and reverse the process to install the new one. Reconnect and get it programmed. The hardest part is getting the unit out of the bracket.
Pretty good video on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZP_kyLAozI
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 7:16 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for the info on the replacement part, I actually came across that same video and that's when I realized that I could just do it myself.
That's the route I will be taking then.
What would happen if I leave it for later?
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 7:59 PM
Tiny
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If you leave it, basically none of the things listed above will work, ABS, traction control, stability control and so on.

Let us know how it works out for you.

Take care,

Joe
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 8:12 PM
Tiny
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As Joe said, with the lights on those systems are shut off. So you went from a 2008 Jeep Wrangler to a late 1990's Wrangler without all of that on it. However, you may not have 4X4 either depending on which system you have, that depends on the options.
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 9:08 PM
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Thanks for clarifying guys, I do have a 4x4 system. I'll have to do my homework on this issue.
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Monday, February 10th, 2020 AT 9:14 PM
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I would probably call a couple other places as well as the dealer. These days needing to program a module is very common so a lot of shops can do it. Then it just comes down to replacing the part. If a dealer says, sure we can do the programming after you change the module for $150.00 and the other shop says we'll replace the module and program it for $400.00 it becomes a toss up. The 4X4 may work fine, I don't know exactly how yours is programmed, some use the ABS and traction control to help the 4X4 work better and those being shut off can cause the system to act odd. On others there is no change.
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 3:26 AM
Tiny
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You're right, I didn't see it that way at first, but I will make some calls for sure. I don't really use the 4x4 so I am not to worried about it, but of course I would like to make sure it works properly anyway.
Thank you.
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 11:47 AM
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Once the module is replaced it all should go back to normal once it's programmed. These days programming is getting to be a required item. Some vehicles are a bit overboard on it though. Change a single ignition coil on a Mercedes V8 and you need to initialize it to the vehicle. Change the battery, tell the computer. Oh you have a slight misfire at 2,350 rpm's while turning left in the rain while going downhill? We have a software update for that!
The way things are going it won't be long until you will need to give the car a DNA sample so it can fully adapt to you. LOL.
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 12:16 PM
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Haha! Seriously huh! Lol Good we folks have you experts out there to guide us through those hard times.
Hey, so yesterday I disconnected the battery and Left it like that for around 10 minutes, then I connected it back and turned on the Jeep, the Christmas lights came on after 10 mph, so that's when I gave up and decided to ask you experts, today the lights have not come on yet, they're gone, what do you guys think about that?
Thanks
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 5:55 PM
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Sounds like an intermittent failure in the module. You could try my guaranteed repair method. Whenever I have an intermittent issue on a personal vehicle, the second I have the very expensive part on the shelf for install, the part on the vehicle never fails again LOL.

However most times an intermittent issue will take a bit to show up again. It's hard to tell sometimes what will happen. In your case I suspect it's a bad solder joint inside the module, common thing with modern vehicles using unleaded solder.
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 7:26 PM
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I couldn't agree more. In most all cases, it is a solder joint in the module itself. The more advanced vehicles get, the more problems we will see. LOL Also, the more printed circuit boards that are installed, them more we will see these types of issues.

As far as the 10 mph for it to come on, I believe the system goes through a self test and will set a code at (and don't laugh) 8 mph. Wow, I'm starting to realize how much I miss manual brakes and a speedometer cable.

Let us know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 7:38 PM
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Thanks to you both, upon reading on the forums I also found some comments regarding intermittent failures. Yeah the more electronic and complex cars get, the more difficult they get to maintain. I appreciate your help. Will update when the lights come back if they do, or ask more questions about any issues. Be safe out there.
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 8:18 PM
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You are very welcome. You be safe as well.

Joe
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Tuesday, February 11th, 2020 AT 8:33 PM

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