Car won't start but cranks

Tiny
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I thought we were done with the tps codes. What are the exact code numbers you have not code descriptions?

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Thursday, October 11th, 2012 AT 2:54 AM
Tiny
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I am still working on getting this car started I have checked the fuel injectors. I removed them and check to see if the injectors were spraying and they are. I have spark at the plugs I have change the camshaft position sensor. Car cranks but wont start if I put starter fluid in throttle body car starts right up and runs very good for short while.I have run a scan for codes no codes present in vehicle. Can you help Cpttrevor

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Thursday, October 18th, 2012 AT 12:15 AM
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What is your actual fuel pressure?

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Friday, October 19th, 2012 AT 9:52 PM
Tiny
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About 48 with disconnected from fuel pressure reg and around 35 0r 38 with line connected. Cpttrevor

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Saturday, October 20th, 2012 AT 2:12 AM
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Sounds like the injectors arent pulsing is the security light on solid or flashing?

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Saturday, October 20th, 2012 AT 2:25 AM
Tiny
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The Injectors are pulsating according to the light flashing and firing in the correct sequential order. Cpttrevor

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Saturday, October 20th, 2012 AT 2:33 AM
Tiny
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Then its getting fuel so doesnt make sense why it will run when you prime it.

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Saturday, October 20th, 2012 AT 2:47 AM
Tiny
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Like I have stated why? Can the throttle system like the motor APS the ETS motor and the ETS control unit be bad and not giving the signal to the throttle to allow the car to start? Cpttrevor

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Sunday, October 21st, 2012 AT 3:36 PM
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I know it goes into limp mode when a failure is detected so it limits throttle opening greatly. If its like a gm car if it detects that failure next key cycle it wont start. The kia repair info I have isnt ver very detailed. Let me see if there is a another moderator on here that knows these kias well.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 3:21 AM
Tiny
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On the scan tool does the tps sensor show.3-1.0 volts without touching the gas pedal?The while holding it to the floor it should read 4.2-4.8 volts?

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 4:56 PM
Tiny
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Ok I would wait until you speak to a Kia expert Cpttrevor

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 6:05 PM
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I justed talked to the kia expert and he said the same thing I told you if the injectors are working and there is good fuel pressure makes no sense why it will start on a prime but not start otherwise. So please check what I just asked you to check rught before your last reply of waiting for me to talk to the expert.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 6:12 PM
Tiny
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I would and get back to you in the morning but ifI remembered correctly I did check it and it was in spec but I would do it again Cpttrevor

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 1:29 AM
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Ok something is wrong here thats all I know.

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 4:22 AM
Tiny
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When measuring the voltage of the TPS should the ignition be on or off for each part of the test?Cpttrevor

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 2:56 PM
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The ignition switch should be in the on position and were not using a multi meter were you using a scan tool to read the voltage.

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 4:14 PM
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No I was using a multimeterCpttrevor

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 10:05 PM
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You need use a scan tool thats what the trouble tree I gave you has you use. Because if its not reading correctly at the computer how would you even know it?Also I just dont know how if the injectors are working and we have the correct fuel pressure how it can start and run on a prime?That makes no sense really to me.

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 11:36 PM
Tiny
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I agree we have injectors firing gas spark and the throttle plate is opening when you attempt to start so it is getting a signal but still would only start if I squirt starter fluid into throttle body and runs very good and smooth until burns off. This only happen after I got gas and I am draining tank and putting fresh gas in possibly I have water or too much alcohol or ethanol in the gas. I am doing this today before anything else because this does not make sense I have been working on cars for years and gas spark air and correct computer signal car should start I would let you know Cpttrevor

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Thursday, October 25th, 2012 AT 2:10 PM
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That sounds like a good plan let me know what happens.

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Thursday, October 25th, 2012 AT 2:20 PM

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