I have a misfire in cyldr 3

Tiny
ERIKWARREN
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  • 2004 HONDA CIVIC
  • 147,000 MILES
Hi,
I have a misfire in cyldr 3. Coil pack, plug and injector are working properly. Compression test was at 205psi, leak down test was at 13-15% and fuel pressure is at 42psi. I hooked up to our shop scanner and O2 readings, evap are normal.

plugs look like they're running too hot, but are oem ngk.
cyldr 3 plug looks the same with the exception that its moist. I want to say antifreeze, but the substance is not oily nor does it smell like antifreeze and with the leak down test passing i'd like to rule out head gasket. Client stated that the car possibly over heated. Im thinking possibility of a cracked or warped head, but can't confirm without tearing into it. Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Friday, January 25th, 2013 AT 1:36 PM

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Tiny
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How did you confirm that the injector was working properly?
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Friday, January 25th, 2013 AT 1:51 PM
Tiny
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Hi, Sorry for the late response, I was out of town. I removed all of the injectors and placed them on our bench test injector platform. Injector on #3 was a little dirty. I ran the otc cleaning agent through the injectors which improved their performance but the vehicle still misfires. The is no change in engine performance when the coil or injector are disconnected on #3. The only other thing I can think of is a stuck valve, but I didnt notice anything abnormal when I adjusted the valve lash.
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Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 AT 1:48 PM
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Have you used a noid light to test for injector pulse at the harness.
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Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 AT 2:01 PM
Tiny
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Yeah, we checked for injector pulse at each harness. All 4 harnesses check out ok. I was thinking possibly an ECM driver issue. There's a CEL p300. So it seems to be localized to just #3. Is it possible the valve spring in the injector is sticking once it gets hot? Off the car it works fine.
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Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 AT 3:52 PM
Tiny
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You just said that you had injector pulse. How could you blame an injector driver?
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Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 AT 5:43 PM
Tiny
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I dunno. Im fishing now and trying to avoid taking the head off.
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Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 AT 8:36 PM
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You need to do less fishing, more testing.
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Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 AT 8:39 PM
Tiny
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I have the same problem! 2004 Honda Civic LX 157,000 miles

Misfiring when accelerating//replace the plugs, coils and one 02 sensor, 3 shops said Its a warped head going bad.

Any update?
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Thursday, March 28th, 2013 AT 6:22 AM

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