RPM raises/ MPH Doesnt. Tranny? Tranny converter? Fuel Line? Gear shift?

Tiny
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I have a 2003 Saturn Vue. Ive taken it to 2 different Transmission specialists as the rumor with so many tranny failures for saturn vue 2002-2005 owners. All said no problem with Tranny.
1. Doesnt do every time but sometimes if I go from idle and build speed as I begin to go it feels as if I dont get the speed I should be getting.

2. RPM gauge is climbing as im pressing the gas, but mph doesnt rise either.
( My meager knowledge on Engines would lead me to think its not an Engine problem, if the car is delivering the RPM's, the next thing is the Tranny.)
a. I.E. If I am in a parking lot starting from Idle to accelerating to leave the parking lot. ( Mostly it happens before even leaving the parking lot) So maybe be jumping from 1st to 2nd, HIGHLY doubtful it happens on the way to 3rd gear) Now Im speaking on behalf of someone else now, and I encouraged her to try to " feel out and listen to " the car shifting gears, and watching the RPM gauge to look for the Spike and see if the car problem happens while the gear is shifting, ( ill get back with ya on that)
3. Only happens from acceleration from low speeds ( when it does happen)
4. Ive heard possibly transmission fluid leaking, to maybe the gear shifts are sloppy or delayed.
1. But if its an automatic I read they dont have gear shifts per se, but the trannys computer kinda does that function with a converter so maybe a converter problem?

5. Regular driving doesnt have any problems.
6. Even more bizarre it tends to happens mostly in certain spots.
I.E. The same places she visits on a regular basis
One in particular has a inclined slope when you want to leave, hence she has to hit the gas a little harder ( im sure as you know the Saturn Vue doesnt exactly have much Giddy-up)

6. Its so intermittent that only ONE of the mechanics have been able to successfully RECREATE the problem. Weve let different mechanics have it for several days up to a week and no problem.
Finally when one mechanic got it to happen, he said the machine told him it was the O2 sensor, he switched it out, ran great for a week. Did it again.

7. Many times when she goes to leave her work ( not really on an inclined slope but does need to go from 1st to 2nd.) The same thing will happen, and shell just kinda take the foot off the gas, or kill the car, then ride around in first gear and then its fine.

8. The car has never completely died out during this stall, just a momentary lapse of no-go.

9. ( Not sure if it ever happens, while gear is shifting, she didnt know to look for it, but she knows to look for it now.)

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Friday, March 2nd, 2012 AT 7:29 PM

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Tiny
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First thing I need to know is if you have the 4cyl engine. If so the rumors are very true there are a ton of problems with the transmissions on the 4cyl vues. They use those vti transmissions I have rebuilt replaced and repaired a ton of those transmissions over the years. So do you have any codes?That would really help us figure something out. Also do you ever hear a scraping noise while traveling at low speeds?Also when taking off does it ever slip or jerk taking off from a stop?Any scraping noise while at a stop while in drive or park?
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Friday, March 2nd, 2012 AT 8:40 PM
Tiny
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1. Will check on 4 cycle question, are there alternatives ( 2?6? That vues tend to be, while I try to figure out how to figure that out)
2. No codes Currently but ill see if I can get my hands on them for you from the guy that ran the comp tests
3. She never said anything about Scraping ( pretty sure she didnt, I asked her to tell me anything she could tell me) but ill come back with a reply soon
4. Im not sure what you mean by if it slips or jerks, nor how to explain that to her to get her to look for it. What cues am I to expect by " slipping" and " jerking"
5. Again most likely no scraping noise for any situation.
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Friday, March 2nd, 2012 AT 8:50 PM
Tiny
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What is the 8th digit of the vin?That will tell us which engine you have. When taking off from a stop the transmission will slip or jerk instead of a smooth take off. If you have codes please find out that would really help.
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Friday, March 2nd, 2012 AT 9:04 PM
Tiny
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1. 4 cylinder ( my bro in law told me before I even checked the VIN)
2. Yes she does hear scraping, occasional, very frequent, she said shes always had that, she even took it to the Saturn people, and they said they didnt hear it.
3. She didnt fully know how to answer to the Slipping or jerking. Just that She would hit the gas and it would be sometimes a few seconds. And sometimes a minute or two of driving around at slow slow speeds, then finally just catch. Not a jerk or a slip, but more of an instant, return to normal.

4. Still nothing on the codes, can prolly have that in the next few days, ( gotta get with the current repair guy)

But for curiousity sakes, any possible conclusions gathered from this? Thanks again for all your help.
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 12:39 AM
Tiny
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If the scraping is coming from the transmission and with the other symptoms sounds like a bad side cover. Very common on those the side cover has the input and output shafts with pulleys and belt. You would also have to replace the internal filter transmission cooler lines and flush the transmission cooler. But before you do that you would need to do a transmission line pressure test with a special gauge that goes way beyond the normal 300psi. You would also need a scan tool that can command the line pressure solenoid to differnt amp settings. That way you can make sure that a pressure issue didnt cause the side cover to fail like a bad valve body or bad pump inside the transmission. So how many miles do you have on your vue?
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 1:00 AM
Tiny
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1. Is the test you speak of a special test
if I go to the place and ask them to do a " transmission line pressure test" are they gonna be doing exactly that?
And I guess this test when you pump so much psi of air, that the side cover would lift up and/or separate from the tranny?
And if so what does that mean, and if not what does that mean.

To make sure im correct, Whatever it is ( im guessing transmission fluid) pumps through the pump, then valve body inside the transmission. So the test will see where the leak is ( if its there)? Again im grasping at straws here lol

Also, how do I go about asking the repair guy to do as you suggested.
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 1:39 AM
Tiny
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What iam talking about has nothing to do with air its fluid pressure fluid under pressure. It also has nothing to do with fluid leaks seals etc. What the tests do is make sure the pump is making the correct pressure and that the valve body is controling the fluid pressure correctly. So how many miles do you have on your vue?
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 2:13 AM
Tiny
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Oh sorry I thought I clarified it with the last message, but just shy of 81000 miles.
2. So what do I ask the repair guy to do.
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 2:57 AM
Tiny
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Hey I just remembered they extended the warranty on those transmissions last I heard it was 100,000 miles or so many years in service. Give a gm dealer a call and let me know what you find out.
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Sunday, March 4th, 2012 AT 4:45 AM
Tiny
LAURA LEIGHTON SAWYER
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Is this correct with the warranty I have 86000 on my 08 saturn veiw. All of the above stated applies to my car issue. But my engine is a v6
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Tuesday, April 26th, 2016 AT 4:53 PM
Tiny
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Your Saturn vue is completely different engine transmission body the whole vechile. There was special circumstances for the extended warranty on the transmission. Which is not the same as your transmission.
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Tuesday, April 26th, 2016 AT 9:04 PM
Tiny
LAURA LEIGHTON SAWYER
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I had previously looked up my VIN number, I believe somewhere on this website or GM website. It did State there were a couple recalls. I went to my local Lannan Chevrolet that I bought it from just four years ago this may. The technician looked up my VIN number and stated there were no recalls on my vehicle. Def looked up my VIN on Saturn's website. Stated differently. I paid for 3 yr extended warranty up to 75000 miles. Had whole vehicle looked over, oil change, piston covers steam cleaned(recommended & extra $$).I've kept good care minus the unforgiving material the seats are made of and impossible to keep perfect LOL but I have read lots of different articles and checked out forums such as this, trying to figure out if it's a common thing. In which, I have discovered it is. I'm still paying loan on this vehicle and just recently spent 900 on 4 new tires 200 on a battery and the hydraulic arms for the trunk are no longer working as well LOL my Saturn Vue has 86000 miles on it LOL so I'm hoping that by the grace of something amazing there is some way to help me fix this and be able to continue utilizing my car because I can't afford to have that whole engine pulled apart the labor alone would be ridiculous please help me :-( :-) LOL
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Wednesday, April 27th, 2016 AT 7:52 PM
Tiny
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Also I was told to get in touch with my GM dealer and see what you guys could do for me in this situation :-) they were very accommodating and nice and I will be bringing it in for an oil change as well as a code reading once GM has come to a conclusion about how possibly they could help me
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Wednesday, April 27th, 2016 AT 7:54 PM
Tiny
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Which v6 do you have a 3.5 or 3.6L engine.
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Wednesday, April 27th, 2016 AT 9:01 PM

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