Lacks power, poor MPG and codes P0171, P0174, P0300, P0302 and P0306?

Tiny
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  • V8
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  • 154,000 MILES
Hi Everyone,

I'm new here. I've got the vehicle listed above XLT model. I'm having problems where it lacks power and is going through a lot of fuel. The check engine light is on and the codes that I've been getting from it are P0171, P0174, P0300, P0302, P0306. I'm trying to figure out as to what might be wrong with it so that I can get it fixed.

Up until January 2023, the car started and ran perfectly. There were no problems with the car. Starting at the end of January I started having problems with the car. First, I discovered a hole in the gas tank which was apparent sabotage. I plugged that hole with a fuel tank repair kit that I had on hand and at first that seemed to solve the problem.

I went to Walmart one night with a friend and when we were ready to leave, the car would not start. I had the car towed home and then I had it towed to a shop where they diagnosed the crank but no start problem and told me that the fuel pump had gone out.

I ordered a new fuel pump from Rockauto and a fuel tank from a salvage yard and had the shop replace the fuel pump and the fuel tank. They told me that when they were doing the work, they discovered that someone had put sugar in the fuel tank and said that was what caused the fuel pump to fail.

Both the tank and the fuel pump have been replaced and I have the car back in my possession. I, however, am having performance problems. The check engine light is coming on, I'm getting the codes that I mentioned and she's acting like it's in limp mode. It starts just fine, but she runs very rough and is very slow to go when I go anywhere with the car. I've replaced the fuel filter thinking that it might solve the problem and I've run Techron through the fuel system as well, but that hasn't solved the problem.

I've looked under the hood and found that there were a couple of hoses that connect to the DFPE were disconnected. I also found that one of the ports on the DFPE was broken. I've ordered a new DFPE from Rockauto and some new hoses as well and am currently waiting for them to be delivered to me.

I'm trying to figure out if there is anything else that might be causing this kind of problem that I might be overlooking and need to check. The spark plugs, coils and injectors were all replaced in 2021 with brand new parts.

Up until January of 2023, this car has started and run perfectly without any problems. Now all of a sudden it's acting up and I'm trying to figure out as to why.

I would appreciate it if one of you that does know about cars can give me some advice as to what might be causing this issue and as to what else I should be looking at.

I'm hoping that by replacing the DFPE Sensor and those hoses that connect to it, will solve the problem, but at this point I can't guarantee that, so I need to be looking at other parts to see if they might be causing the problem.

Any advice or suggestions that you might have would be greatly appreciated.
Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 AT 8:38 PM

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Tiny
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These are lean and misfire codes, so I would say you have some fuel injectors that have failed due to the sugar in the fuel tank. I would replace all of them to help fix the problem. here is how in the instructions below. This guide can help walk you through the steps with and the images to show you how on your car.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-fuel-injector

Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.

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Friday, March 24th, 2023 AT 6:45 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for that information. I will definitely look into that. I received the new DFPE Sensor and hoses today from Rockauto and installed them. When I did a test drive to the local smoke shop the check engine light did not come on. When I got to the smoke shop, I checked the hoses that connect to the DFPE, the small hoses somehow blew off (I'm guessing from too much pressure). I reconnected it and drove it home. The only code that showed up was P0306. I went out and made an Instacart order. During the drive, the small hose blew completely off again, and the check engine light came on again. I went and did a few more Instacart orders, leaving that hose off as it would not stay on. I got the P0171, P0174 and P0306 codes again. She's still running rough and is acting like she's only running on 3 cylinders. I was out trying to make enough money to buy the new injectors, but this problem is keeping me from doing that in a timely manner. During the other Instacart orders she did not want to go over 25 MPH. At one point I stopped at a stoplight on a slight hill. I barely made it past the light after the light changed green. When I did, she picked up a bit, but not by much. When I got home, she was acting like she didn't even want to go around the parking lot. I'm wondering if there is anything else that might cause these symptoms and problems that I am not looking at or considering. I'm desperately trying to get this issue resolved in as short a time frame as I can, but that's not easy to do as my income is reliant upon the car and right now the car is keeping me from doing a lot of Instacart orders due to this problem.
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Saturday, March 25th, 2023 AT 8:24 PM
Tiny
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Okay, the hoses blow off when there is too much backpressure in the exhaust system, I would check the catalytic converter. here is a guide to help, this could be why the engine is not running correctly as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-catalytic-converter

Please go over this guide and report back.
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Monday, March 27th, 2023 AT 11:58 AM
Tiny
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Both of your suggestions do make sense. The question and the problem is as to which one it is. There could possibly be more than one problem going on here. Before those people put the sugar in my gas tank and punched a hole in the tank, I was not having any issues with the car. She was running perfectly. This all started after they put the sugar in the gas tank and punched a hole in the gas tank. At the present time, I am thinking that it is best that I take it to a professional local mechanic and have them look at it and diagnose it. I think that is the only way we are going to find out for sure as to what is causing the problem. What you said about the restricted exhaust though does scare me as that is huge expense as Catalytic Convertors are not cheap, and neither is the labor. I personally hope that it is not the Catalytic Convertor that is causing the problem and that it is something else. I will let you know as soon as I know more as to what is causing the problem. Hopefully it will help others who may be experiencing similar symptoms and problems with their Ford Expedition. I'll keep you updated as soon as I find out more.
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Monday, March 27th, 2023 AT 4:16 PM
Tiny
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If the Catalytic Convertor is clogged, wouldn't that trigger an OBD2 Code relating to the Catalytic Convertor?
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Tuesday, March 28th, 2023 AT 1:19 AM
Tiny
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Not always because the secondary sensor measure efficiency not flow.
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Thursday, March 30th, 2023 AT 12:22 PM
Tiny
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I was able to resolve the P0171, P0174, P0300, P0302, and the P0306 codes. I took it apart and replaced all the spark plugs and cleaned out all the injectors. That restored power for the most part. I am now getting a P0402 code and the DPFE hoses keep blowing off. I've replaced the DPFE sensor, the EGR valve and the EGR solenoid. That P0402 code still keeps coming back on and the DPFE hoses still keep blowing off. I'm out of ideas. At this point in time, I'm inclined to think that there is a restriction in the exhaust system, but at this point in time I can't say for sure as to whether that is the problem or as to where in the exhaust system that restriction might be coming from.

For the life of me, I can't figure out as to what is causing this to occur. As stated already, the DPFE sensor has been replaced, the EGR Valve has been replaced, and the EGR solenoid has been replaced and the DPFE hoses are brand new. I'm not really sure as to where else to look. I've also heard of a product called Cataclean that is supposed to clean out the Catalytic Convertors. I can try that, but I can't guarantee if that is going to work or if that is going to solve the problem.

I think that the P0402 code comes on only after the DPFE hoses get blown off. I think that's the cause of the P0402 code and it's the only thing that makes any sense as the DPFE sensor, EGR Valve and EGR Solenoid have been replaced.
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Friday, April 28th, 2023 AT 3:48 AM
Tiny
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Yep, DPFE hoses getting blown off is a sign the catalytic converter is clogged but to be sure this guide can help confirm the issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-catalytic-converter

Please go over this guide and report back.

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Saturday, April 29th, 2023 AT 11:18 AM

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