Codes P1457 and P1456?

Tiny
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Hey there! I did attempt to upgrade the scanner to the 2007 but the computers are not recognizing the scanner despite purchasing a few retro items to accommodate the update. The internet upgrade doesn’t seem to function either. Do you know of an alternative way to get it to update?
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Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 AT 12:54 AM
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It's been a while, but I seem to recall that to do the updates you loaded the software onto the computer, then updated the application on the computer then used that to update the memory card using a card reader. Then you plugged the memory into the tool and used the card to activate it.
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Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 AT 9:44 AM
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Thank you! I will give it another go. If I'm unable to, I will probably bite the bullet and get a more modern scanner.
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Wednesday, June 4th, 2025 AT 6:56 PM
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Hi,

I noticed we haven't heard from you for a few days. Have you had any luck? We're interested in knowing.

Thanks,

Joe
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Friday, June 6th, 2025 AT 8:23 PM
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Hey there! I did try it out again and was unable to get it to function. For some reason the USB doesn’t send down stream and up stream despite having a cord from that era.

I believe my scanner was before the memory card version. The 2.0 version of the scanner I have has an ethernet to RS232 cord. Maybe I needed the 3.0 version to upgrade to the Asian 2007 card.

I’ve since had the valves adjusted for the random misfires and have not got a CEL back. Not sure if that could have been related to the P1457. I’ll keep updates coming!
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Friday, June 6th, 2025 AT 9:48 PM
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The memory card should be under the cover on the left side of the tool. It is a large compact flash card. Do not try to format it. Instead, you use a card reader and the software on the disc to load the card. You should be able to go to 2008 on the system 2 and 3.
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Saturday, June 7th, 2025 AT 5:32 PM
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Hey there! I Had returned the unit before the window to do so closed. I only had a month. I went on ahead and went for a more modern scanner. I have a 2025 LAUNCH Creader Elite V2.0 for Honda and Acura.

It did detect the P1457, and also let me do the active solenoid tests. I attached a video but here is what happened for each test:

1. PCS(CPV) On, CVS On And BPS On - FTP Sensor value fluctuated. It almost filled like the engine was bogging down while all were engaged.
2. PCS(CPV) Off, CVS On And BPS Off - FTP Sensor fluctuated slightly. No noticeable difference in idling.
3. PCS(CPV) Off, CVS Off And BPS On - FTP Sensor stayed steady. No noticeable difference in idling

I’m uncertain what the other metrics meant, but the check engine light has not fully come back on.

Thanks for your continued help!
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Thursday, June 12th, 2025 AT 10:33 PM
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Well looking at the video and the tests I would say the issue isn't the purge or vent solenoids or the canister. However, there are other parts that you can't really use a scan tool to test. Like the fuel filler neck, the pump and the lines. That first test showed that the purge will open and pull a vacuum (that is why the voltage dropped on the FTP) It also showed that your vent solenoid seems to work. The bogging was the very rich fuel mix being pulled through the purge system. The last test will normally only show anything if you wait a while as it should show the FTP rising from the fuel in the tank warming up. I believe the solenoids and valves are not the issue. That leaves things like a small leak around the fuel pump, a small leak in something like the filler neck or vent line. Testing those would need a smoke machine and a quite place to work with no breeze. There are a few of them you can build out of a paint can and a BBQ regulator if you want to DIY. You don't get the fancy features, but they do work. The hard part is usually finding the tiny leak.
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Thursday, June 12th, 2025 AT 11:57 PM
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Thanks for the information! For the smoke machine, I had found this DIY video:

https://youtu.be/VvcFGzAyaXE?si=qmBozPzsL4WIWCbY

Would that work or would I need something more powerful like this one or a DIY like this one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B2JV8YDP/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_5?smid=A39QUDLVDNA8EY&th=1

Also, once I get it, where should I insert the smoke from?
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Friday, June 13th, 2025 AT 9:52 AM
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I've actually built one like this as a test and it worked very well for basic leaks. The big thing is to not use a lot of pressure. The propane regulator will drop the pressure down to less than one half PSI. which will not hurt anything. Then for testing you can inject from the line the purge valve connects to. One big safety item. Regardless of which unit you use, turn off the power to the coil first, then disconnect the hose and shut off the air last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np_duzsaZxI
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Friday, June 13th, 2025 AT 3:55 PM
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Perfect! When I apply the smoke should on the hose from the side or bottom of where the purge valve connects? Thank you for the safety tip as well!
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Friday, June 13th, 2025 AT 6:35 PM
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You want it on the line that goes back to the tank and other parts. That will allow for smoke to fill all the lines and the tank and filler neck. One thing I have done is add a few drops of UV dye into the mineral oil. Then use a bright light and a UV light to see if you can find the leak. It can take a bit. Another trick you can do to help is to look for smoke on every line, fitting and all around the tank. If you can set the last test in the video that would close the tank vent so you shouldn't see smoke there. Then get a bottle of bubble fluid (the stuff in the dollar store that you wave to create bubbles) Mix it 50-50 with water and put it in a small spray bottle. You can spray that on suspect areas and see if you see bubbles. The.5 psi is enough to create bubbles if there is any leak.
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Friday, June 13th, 2025 AT 7:22 PM
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Good evening! I decided to get this smoke machine https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7MKZPK3?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title since I didn't have access to a compressed air machine.

It did mention something about this machine making 19-23psi but the evap system needing 1 psi. It says to run for 1-3 minutes then stop it but, how long should the start / stop intervals be to not damage the system?

Also, would this UV Dye be suitable for this? https://a.co/d/9As6BgW

I’m not sure where I can expect to see the leak, but at least it's just the one now. At first it was P1456 and P1457, but now it's just the P1457.
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Wednesday, June 18th, 2025 AT 8:07 PM
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I was able to do a smoke test and saw a bit of smoke leaking from around the top of the charcoal canister, but both had been replaced previously. Could this be masking the actual leak somewhere else? Or could it be some type of seal issue design flaw where the two parts meet? Does the car need to be on?
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Friday, June 20th, 2025 AT 5:00 PM
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I just smoked it again and see smoke is coming from the top of this hose, but I don’t know where it connects to and not sure if normal for smoke to pour from it.
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Friday, June 20th, 2025 AT 5:36 PM
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Check the connection itself for cracks. If you want to see the smoke better use a bright hand light with the lights off. That usually lets you track the smoke easier. A way to drop the pressure would be to open the machine and connect a BBQ regulator in the airline. That would drop it to a half of a PSI.
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Friday, June 20th, 2025 AT 7:14 PM
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Awesome! I’m going to pick this up and give it a go! Steel Regulator https://www.lowes.com/pd/Char-Broil-Standard-Propane-Tank-Regulator/999919518
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Sunday, June 22nd, 2025 AT 11:20 AM
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I will be picking up the regulator this weekend, but I was able to do another short test.

I found that where the smoke was coming from is a vent tube meant to be open to the atmosphere. I plugged it during the duration of the smoke test (about 30 seconds) and saw no smoke anywhere from the canister area

Once I get the regulator, hopefully I can run the smoke test longer with no fear it will damage the system. Should I keep that vent plugged when I smoke it again with continuous smoke?
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Friday, June 27th, 2025 AT 12:35 PM
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That tube is likely the canister vent. Your scan tool should be able to close the valve it has for that. If you turn it "off" so the vent is closed and still gets smoke out of it, the valve is bad. It may turn on and off, but it isn't sealing.
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Friday, June 27th, 2025 AT 3:42 PM

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