1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager Rear Window Motors Not Functioning and Windshield Wipers Not Cleaning Smoothly

Tiny
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Hi,

I have a 1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager, and both of the rear window motors are not working. I went to Strauss Auto, but the total cost for them to replace just one motor (which they would order from the dealer) is about $300. My question is (and I don't know how to replace them myself even if I had bought the motors myself) is there any way I could get both motors replaced for much cheaper?

My second concern is regarding the front windshield wipers. They don't clean the windshield smoothly when it rains, when it rains either lightly or heavily. I have tried replacing the wipers, but that didn't help. Is my windshield chemically damaged/dirty? How do I fix that?

The last concern I have is regarding the headlights. I have noticed that about half of each headlight is now frosted. Is there any way I could reverse that?

Thanks!
Sunday, September 4th, 2011 AT 2:38 AM

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Tiny
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CHECK THIS OUT---IF YOU STILL ARE HESITANT, I'LL THROW OUT SOME RURAL IDEAS AS WHERE TO FIND CHEAPER ASSISTANCE....KEEP IN MIND, IT COULD BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE MOTOR

I AVOID THE DEALER, I HAVE HAD FEW PROBLEMS WITH AFTERMARKET ITEMS--IN FACT, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A HASSLE RETURNING DEFECTIVE STUFF TO A DEALER!

LETS REALLY LOOK AT THE ONES APPLICABLE TO YOU, LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT SYMPTOMS...IT MAY BE SOMETHING CHEAP AND SIMPLE!

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GO DIY--START SAVING THE $$$!......LIKE I HAVE FOR MANY YEARS!

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1999-ford-ranger-wheel-bearings-front

ALL RIGHTY, WATCHA THINK?

THE MEDIC
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Sunday, September 4th, 2011 AT 4:10 AM
Tiny
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Hi:

Okay, lets start with the rear motors for the windows. First, it is odd that both went bad. To be honest, I've never seen them go bad before and have been in the business for over 30 years. What I recommend is this. First, have another mechanic check to see if the motors are getting power. Something tells me a fuse or broken wire is the issue and not the motors (especially not both). If they find the motors are bad, the price they quoted is about average based on what I read for labor.

Next, the wipers should be an easy fix. First, understand that the wiper arms (the part connected to the vehicle) are spring loaded and keep the wiper blade pushed against the windshield. The springs can lose their tension and I have seen them rust to a point that they are weak. They are located under the wiper arm. Pull the wiper arm away from the windshield to see if there is enough pressure when it returns. If not, chances are the wiper arms need replaced. It is easy to do. There is one nut that holds it in place under a cover that is where they mount. Remove the nut, remove the arm, and replace.

As far as the headlights, that is a normal problem today. There are different products that claim to repair it. However, I haven't found any that really work. The sun is actually drawing the oils from the plastic. I have two options for you. First, purchase a fine polishing compound and following the directions, see if that removes the fog. It should remove some or most of it. If that doesn't work, you can purchase new headlight assemblies on the internet (ebay.) For really cheap. I just purchased new ones for my father in law for 25 bucks each.

I hope this helps.
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Sunday, September 4th, 2011 AT 4:14 AM
Tiny
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Hi:

As for the motors, I did recognize that the car's interior lights at times do not turn on when one or more of the doors are opened. Instead, they seem to flick on for a bit then turn off, then turn back on. It's as if they flash off and on when they should not. Do you think there are broken wires in the car, or broken fuses? Does this have to do with the windows malfunctioning? Please keep in mind that the motors did not fail at the same time. One failed at least a year and a half before the other. So please let me know about this.

About the windshield wipers, they also make noise and seem to skip because of too much pressure on the windshield. Do you think the springs might be too tight for some reason?

I will follow your advice on the headlights.

Please let me know. Thanks!
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Sunday, September 4th, 2011 AT 10:31 AM
Tiny
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There is a chance you have a weak or broken ground causing the electrical problems. As far s the motors, I would just make sure they are bad by checking for power to them or sending power to them to see if they operate. The wipers, on the other hand, sounds like a problem where the springs are weak and not keeping enough pressure on the windshield.
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Sunday, September 4th, 2011 AT 10:12 PM

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