Rattling steering rack

Tiny
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  • 1996 HONDA CIVIC
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • MANUAL
  • 318,750 MILES
My car has this rattling coming from the steering rack. The shaft going up and connected has a little sway when I try to turn the wheel while the vehicle is at rest. What are the parts I need to replace? Can you provide me with an exploded view of the parts for the rack and pinion so I can use as a guide when I do the replacement. Tnx

P.S. Its a manual steering rack, no hydraulics.
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Saturday, June 11th, 2011 AT 7:04 PM

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Tiny
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For me would replace with rebuilt rack
Good Luck
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Saturday, June 11th, 2011 AT 7:20 PM
Tiny
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I have already bought a used rack from the scrap yard.75bucks including tie rods end to end. There was just this slight clearance between the rack and pinion. But still much better than what I have. It seems the clearance is from the worn housing for both my steering sets. No replaceable bushings on the pinion?
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Saturday, June 11th, 2011 AT 7:49 PM
Tiny
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I forgot to tell u something doc.

TNX for the exploded view. You have saved me alot of $$ for that one and for labor fees for the mechanic.
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Saturday, June 11th, 2011 AT 8:07 PM
Tiny
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Let me know if need anything else we have a Honda expert on site goes by KHLow
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Saturday, June 11th, 2011 AT 8:39 PM
Tiny
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I dismantled the rack from the scrap yard. The pinion was a little bit worn but I think it can last another 200K miles in my hands. There was also a very slight clearance on the rack end bushing, I already changed that one. Im planning to do the installation this weekend. For experts with the proper tools, it will not take long. But for me, maybe it will take take the whole day in replacing the steering, maybe I cant even remove the old one. Any tips on doing this job the correct way?
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Sunday, June 12th, 2011 AT 6:13 PM
Tiny
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Remove shifter ans stiffener plate located below steering gear and CAT.
Move rack to right remove brackets. Lower rack so pinion clears bulkhead keep moving right till left clears chassis beam then lower and remove from left
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Sunday, June 12th, 2011 AT 6:34 PM
Tiny
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Tnx again, Ill post the outcome of this job later on.
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Sunday, June 12th, 2011 AT 7:07 PM
Tiny
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I made the rack replacement today. It wasnt as hard as I thought. But still took me 4 hours. I've had a few problems disassembly though. One long bolt near the adjustment screw was difficult to remove. Forcing the bolt caused the welded nut on the chassis to peel off. The bolt was turning freely without a conternut. No other choice so I painstakingly used a grinder to remove the bolt head and pushed the bolt and nut inside. Now the rack is installed with one vital bolt missing. Will this be a big problem? If the rack was made of steel, I could just have made a little weld spot to keep it in place. After installation I've found that there is also clearance on the shaft connected to the steering wheel itself. Again I need your support for this job. What part usually needs replacement?

I was suspecting that this steering problems were the ones causing vibration on the cars body. After the steering job, the vibration was reduced substantially, there is still a lot of shake remaining. I've done a lot of repairs and checking already. Shocks, suspension bushings, engine support, allignment of front and back, wheel balancing. This body shaking comes at 50 to 60mph and increases when I step on the gas harder. When the gas is released, no shaking. The last thing Im thinking is changing 2 rear tires. They were not perfectly round when seen on the tire balancing machine although the leads placed on them made the reading to be zero. Do you think this is the reason for the shaking? The tires were just a year old and still looks fine. I need some opinion before I change them. After this, I dont know where else to look for solutions to fix this shaking. I hope you can help me on this one too. Tnx in advance.
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Friday, June 17th, 2011 AT 6:17 PM

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