Power window wont roll up all the way

Tiny
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  • 1991 HONDA ACCORD
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  • 145,000 MILES
My back driver's side window has never been able to roll up all the way. I've had somebody try to roll it up while I tried to force the window up, but it will not roll up completely. There is a 1/4 inch gap where it won't roll up. It really sucks since I live in Oregon, and well. Its always rains here. So I took the panel off, and took the window channel out and sprayed it down with a silicon lubricant. I put the channels back in, made sure the window was on track with the channels. Still no luck. There is still like a 1/4" of an inch gap that it leave at the top. It makes kind of a grinding noise when it rolls up, also, the window can wiggle to the left or the right. That doesn't seem normal. Its almost like something is pressing up against the window making it so the window can roll up all the way, or the window is not being directed properly causing pressure, hence why the window eventually cannot go up all the way. When the window was off the regulator, I could pull it all the way up to that spot where it is sticking and then muscle it up the rest of the way, but it doesnt seem like the motor can handle that much. And no matter how much I try to muscle it up while somebody else rolls the window up, it won't seal all the way. Any suggestions? Think its the regulator?
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Monday, February 14th, 2011 AT 7:11 PM

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Tiny
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With glass off regulator, was it difficult to move it up to fully cloded position? Does manually moving the glass gets it to close fully?
If yes, yo both above, you have a faulty regulator.
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Monday, February 14th, 2011 AT 7:27 PM
Tiny
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Yes to both of those things. Its almost like my regulator is bent or something. I'll try replacing that and see what happens. I was just reluctant to buy one unless I knew for sure that was it. They aren't cheap. Thanks for your reply.
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Monday, February 14th, 2011 AT 8:06 PM
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After you remove the regulator, check the rolers at top of regulator. Quite often the roller bracket breaks off resulting in the glass not being able to wind up completely.

Check the door glass runchannel as well. If they are hardened or deformed, especially near the side morror corners, they would result in restriction of the door glass and makes the glass moves slower than normal due to the load. This would also results in premature failing of the regulator.
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Tuesday, February 15th, 2011 AT 11:36 AM
Tiny
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Thanks, you were spot on about the roller bracket. It was snapped right off. I probably need to replace the window channel too since its really hard, unless there is a way to fix it?
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Tuesday, February 15th, 2011 AT 7:54 PM
Tiny
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The window channel needs to be replaced. Silicone or any other non-oil based lubricants would only work temporarily.

Never used oil-based lubriants, they would damage the runchannels and cause premature failure.
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Tuesday, February 15th, 2011 AT 8:03 PM
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I did buy a silicone lube. It didnt really do anything. I'll grab a new channel then. Thanks for your help! :)
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Wednesday, February 16th, 2011 AT 2:12 AM
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You're welcome.

Have a nice day.
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Wednesday, February 16th, 2011 AT 1:22 PM
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I put the new ones in and the same thing is happening! I was able to pull the window up all the way though so it will seal out the rain. Its making that same grinding sound that it was before when it rolls up. Its 100% on track with the window channel. Its like the metal guides that the channel sits in (on the right side) are off and pushing the window into the door slightly enough to make trouble with rolling up the window all the way.

When I roll up the window I can see it pushing in on the right side. Like it doesn't line up how it should. Its 100% on track though. I meticulously checked for anything out of the ordinary and found nothing.

In reference to the picture diagram.

#9 is not in place. Where does it go exactly? It fell off when I was taking off the assembly the first time.

And the part I was talking about being bent? Thats the only thing I can think of that would be causing my window to not roll up. It would be that part 6/13.
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Monday, February 21st, 2011 AT 3:26 AM
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Also #2. What does that do? I don't think I felt that. The problem lays in that area somewhere.
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Monday, February 21st, 2011 AT 3:28 AM
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Where did you get the diagram from? Our database does not have the diagram and for #9, I am not sure of the exact shape.

For # 6/13, it is right or left and is the door runchannel guide. It should be plugged into the door frame and held in place by bolt # 25. It should be installed correctly failing which there would be excessive resistance when the glass is being wound up.

Loosen the 2 bolts ( # 26 ) for holding # 5/8 and roll up the window to test if it is easier for the glass to move.

Try loosening the regulater bolts 24 and roll up window.

If the door glass holding bolts are removed, are you able to slide the glass up easily manually?

Try loosensin
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Monday, February 21st, 2011 AT 1:27 PM
Tiny
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I grabbed that diagram from Majestic Honda. Here is the link
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=1991&catcgry3=4DR+LX&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=REAR+DOOR+GLASS

I'll do what you said and see if it works.
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Monday, February 21st, 2011 AT 6:28 PM
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I can't seem to be able to access the link.

Do you have the part names for the listed items?
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Monday, February 21st, 2011 AT 6:39 PM
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Sorry, I checked the link. If you select "Rear door glass" from that last drop down menu it will bring up the diagram with all the part names.
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Monday, February 21st, 2011 AT 7:30 PM
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Sorry, I could not even access the site.
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Tuesday, February 22nd, 2011 AT 1:24 PM

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