Ignition problem, no spark to the distributor cap?

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Didnt take too many pictures from todays activities. But here are a few.

1. Old Spark plugs that came out of it. POS champions, replaced with bosch platinums.
2. Future floor panel starting to take shape. Made a few more cuts and bends after this picture was taken. Trying to fight the setting sun.
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Monday, February 27th, 2012 AT 1:26 AM
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I SUBMITTED ANOTHER ANSWER---IT MAY SHOW UP--IT MAY NOT

IF IT DOES'T, I GUESS I'LL WRITE IT AGAIN

THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE---I'LL WAIT A BIT BEFORE I PECK IT OUT AGAIN

THE MEDIC
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Monday, February 27th, 2012 AT 4:36 AM
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I MESSAGED A BIG GUY HERE, HE SAYS IT LOOKS LIKE MY LAST ANSWER IS IN CYBER SPACE SOMEWHERE.I WILL RE-PECK YOU ANOTHER AS CLOSE TO THE LAST AS POSSIBLE. IT OUGHTA BE HERE WITHIN THE HOUR

THE MEDIC
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Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 AT 12:38 AM
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HERE GOES AGAIN

1ST, IF ALL OF YOUR PLUGS HAVE THE SAME COLOR AS THIS ONE.....YOU HAVE A GOOD EFFICIENT BURN AND YOUR INTERNAL CYLINDER COMPONENTS ARE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER, YOUR MILEAGE WILL MOST LIKELY BE CLOSE TO PEAK. INSURING YOUR VACUUM LINES ARE WHERE NEEDED AND THERE ARE NOT VACUUM LEAKS. TIMING AND CORRECT DISTRIBUTOR ADVANCES (TESTS), A LITTLE CARB TWEAKING........YOU SHOULD BE GOOD FOR A TRANSCONTINENTAL TRIP!

HERE'S HOW YOU SORTA USE A VACUUM GAUGE.....I THINK YOU CAN FIND THE OTHER EXPLANATIONS AT THE "HOLLEY WEB SITE" WHEN THE VIDEO RUNS OUT. A VACUUM GAUGE ON THE DASH (LIKE MINE) WILL ALERT YOU OF PROBLEMS, AND ALSO LETS YOU PLAY THE "GAME"----"SEE HOW HIGH I CAN KEEP THE GAUGE, WHILE I DRIVE!". THIS WILL LET YOU SEE FIRST-HAND HOW A HEAVY FOOT (OR UNAWARE FOOT) WILL COST YOU MPGs

MY LAST ANSWER IN THIS POST WILL SHOW YOU HOW A.NAL I AM WITH MY JEEP, I LIKE GAUGES, I'M GONNA GET MORE! MY VACUUM GAUGE IS THE TOP RIGHT (ABOVE THE "NORMAL" RADIO LOCATION" (MY RADIO IS MOUNTED UNDER THE DASH IN FRONT OF MY 20MM AMMO CAN CONSOLE)

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1986-nissan-truck-loping-idle

THE LUG NUT REMOVAL TOOL AT WORK IS PART OF A SET W/ MISSING PIECES....I WAS TOLD IT WAS A LOANER/ IN STORE TOOL...IT'S ON THE CART WITH THE CRAPPY MISMATCHED TOOLS USED IN THE PARKING LOT (ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE MORE AND MORE DISAPPEARS OVER TIME, THEN REPLACED WITH CHEAP-O GET BY TOOLING) THIS WAS WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS. IT MAY BE A LOANER IN YOUR AREA

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_5-Piece-Locking-Lug-Nut-Twise-Lock-Technology_25980975-P_N3409A_T%7CGRP2062_____

IF YOU WANT AN INEXPENSIVE KEEPER (SELDOM USED) THIS MAY BE YOU! THESE WILL B.OOGER UP THE OUTSIDES, AND THEY JUST "TAKE OUT"--NOT "PUT 'EM BACK". THEY ONLY "BITE AND HANG ON" WHEN TURNED CCW

USE A LONG "JUMPER WIRE" (ALLIGATOR CLIPS ON BOTH ENDS) AND CONNECT TO NEG ON YOUR BATTERY---THEN TO THE BODY OR GROUND PORTIONS OF YOUR LIGHT FIXTURES (TEMPORARY) IF YOUR LIGHTS WORK CORRECTLY, CHECK YOUR GROUNDS OR INSTALL NEW ONES TO THE FIXTURES. WITH AS MUCH RUST AS YOU DESCRIBE, YOUR GROUNDS MAY BE IN BAD SHAPE TOO.

THE WRONG FILAMENT BURNING OR AT THE WRONG BRIGHTNESS IS EITHER A GROUND ISSUE, OR SOMEONE HAS BEEN CHOPPIN' AND SPLICIN' STUFF BACK TOGETHER IN WRONG OR ADDING OTHER FIXTURES IN, INCORRECTLY.

I HAVE NOT COMPARED THE DIAGRAM FOR YOURS WITH THE '79, I'M SORTA DOING MOST OF THE PECKING---SO I WILL LEAVE THAT FOR YOU!

I REALLY THINK THAT THE GAUGES, LIGHT CIRCUITS ARE UNCHANGED IN THE DIAGRAMS (OTHER STUFF TOO) MINE WILL BE SO EZ TO FOLLOW THE "NOW COLORED" WIRES....LOOKING IN A MANUAL EVERYTHING IS SO SMALL, BLACK AND WHITE, AND WHEN MULTIPLE WIRES RUN PARALLEL, YOU ACCIDENTALLY FOLLOW THE WRONG ONE! CHECK MINE OUT AND TELL ME IT AIN'T EZier!!!........IF YOU NEED IT RE-SENT, LET ME KNOW

REMEMBER ON THE HEADLIGHT SWITCH BODY THERE IS A BUTTON THAT RELEASES THE STEM, SO YOU CAN PULL THE STEM AND K.NOB OFF THE FRONT OF THE DASH AS "ONE PIECE", TO BE REUSED IN THE NEW SWITCH

HAVE I SENT YOU ANY OF MY WALMART ALBUMS, WITH MY JEEP MODIFICATIONS? (I HAVE TERRIBLE "CRS") IF SO HOW MANY, WERE THEY HELPFUL?

THE MEDIC

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Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 AT 1:48 AM
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Well the P.O. Had done plenty of cheap rigged wiring. He had an obsession with wiring and welding. Such a pain in the ass! But ill do some tests with the grounds soon, been working on the floor pan yesterday and today. Its ready to go in, the paint was drying today when I went to work. Hopefully it'll be in there tomorrow. Than ill keep on working with the wiring.

I read up some of those links you posted. Could you give me a little more info on how you did the O2 sensor and the gauge to show rich/lean/stoich etc. That definately seems like something I might do with it, it needs a new exhaust, front pipe is cracked and rubbing on the motor mounts. So I figured while ill be doing that maybe I could do what you did with yours.

Most of the albums you send me were of your willys, and your rebuild process. From how you got it to how it is today. But if youve got others ill gladly take a look! Could always use a little more inspiration.

Picked up the 80-90W gear oil today. Maybe ill get that started tomorrow. Already have new gaskets for both diff's. Gonna also do the tranny and t-case. The t-case also uses the same gear oil, right? Only reason I ask is because my '88 with the NP231 t-case said to use automatic transmissioon fluid in it.

As far as the other spark plugs go: that one in the picture was from the furthest cylinder forward (closest to the radiator) and all the others were just slightly darker. And Champions (which I hear are the worst to use) But I havent got a clue on how new or old they were before I got the jeep. Ill snap a picture tomorrow of the other ones to show you, if I can remember.

Before I go chewing them up or putting out the money for them pieces you linked me to, im gonna take a drive over the the P.O.'S house and ask him if he has the keys to the locks. Its gotta be worth a shot, worst can happen is he says no.

Usually before I submit an answer ill highlight it and copy it in case it doesnt go thru. Learned that the hard way. Maybe you should give it a shot for when yours dont work.

Remember that little box by the solenoid that we couldnt figure out what it was for? Well I had it running today and I unplugged it to see if it did anything. Well it had absolutely no affect on the way it ran. So I havent got a clue as to what its in control of. All the wires just go back to the bunch of wires that lead under the dash.

There seems to be very minimal vacuum lines. The only ones that actually go somewhere are from the distributor to the carb, the on from the carb to the choke piece, and I think 1 other. Ill take some pics of that tomorrow too. Most of them have been plugged or just arent there any more.
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Wednesday, February 29th, 2012 AT 4:22 AM
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YOU ARE DOIN' SO GOOD---SAD THING IS. ARE YOU OUTSIDE?

I WAS OUTSIDE---THEN A CARPORT---NOW A NICE "HEATABLE" 2 CAR GARAGE WHEN I FINALLY ACQUIRED THE PERFECT FEMALE SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND I FINALLY BOUGHT MY (OUR) 1ST HOUSE SEVEN YEARS AGO AFTER 41 YEARS OF NOMADING

I WILL SEND YOU MULTIPLE ALBUMS, MAYBE A BUNCH!

VERIFY THIS INFO !

THINGS COULD BE SPECIAL ORDERED FROM FACTORY---PEOPLE CHANGE THINGS DUE TO "EASE/ EXPENSE IN ACQUIRING THEM"

YOU SHOULD HAVE "NORMALLY" EITHER A T-176

THESE TRANNYS ARE "NORMALLY COUPLED" WITH A DANA 300 TRANSFER CASE. BOTH ARE ALUMINUM CASESEARLIER TRANNYS (EX. MINE, T-150) ARE CAST IRON CASES

ALL OF THE ABOVE USE 80W-90 GEAR OIL !

OTHER TRANNYS WILL EZily FIT IN!

LATER YEARS USE A T-4 (4SPD) OR A T-5 (5 SPEED) THE DANA 300 TRANSFER CASE WILL NOT ATTACH TO THESE (UNLESS THEY MAKE AN ADAPTER)THESE 2 USE DEXRON II AUTO TRANNY JUICE

NOTE----THESE 2 SORTA RESEMBLE A SR-4 IN A QUICK GLANCE----MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE OF WHAT YOU HAVE, LOOK FOR NUMBERS ON THE CASE ! ! !

I TRY TO GET AN "EDGE" ON ANY MISSION I MUST UNDERTAKE, RIGHT PEOPLE NEEDING MY AID. ME NEEDING THEIR'S.I TRY TO COME OUT ON TOP. BELOW IS MY AUTO SALVAGE YARD "ANGLE"

YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO HIT A SALVAGE YARD, LOOK THRU THE 80s FORDS, AND FIND THE CORRECT CONNECTOR FOR THE DISTRIBUTOR---GRAB YOU A SPARE "BLUE" (PLASTIC ENTRANCE WIRE HOLDER)(RED OR YELLOW ARE NOT COMPATIBLE) IGNITION MODULE TOO. THEY WILL WANT FOR LITTLE TO NOTHING $$$ FOR IT (TAKE IT HOME AND TEMPORARILY RUN IT TO VERIFY IT WORKS). THIS WILL MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD LATER, IF YOU HAVE AN IGNITION PROBLEM, IT WILL EITHER CONFIRM OR RULE OUT A IGNITION MODULE PROBLEM, WITHOUT HAVING THE ONE IN QUESTION TESTED

The best resource is a small Ma and Pop type "U Pull It" type auto salvage yard

The ones I go to, I can get a Grocery Store plastic sackful of any and all sensors, off of any vehicle, seats, or even a door, for $10 or less. IT'S ALL IN "TECHNIQUE"

If you'll take a cooler of soft drinks, and strategically offer a round when you are talking to 'em as soon as you arrive

Yes. Before your venture, and when you return, from the yard with your booty,

prior to the "Settling Up Proceedings". Generally, "Price Specials" sorta "Happen" in your favor!

Any time you go---or your friends have to go, use the Technique (make your buddy supply, when he goes)

Depending on how many times you show your face, you will never have to pay for the little piddly stuff again, larger items will leave with you for little to no cost!

THESE PICS WERE A TRIP I WILLY, MY NEIGHBOR NEEDED A DOOR FOR HIS TRUCK.I GOT IF FOR $10 (AS IF IT WAS FOR ME). HE BOUGHT THE DRINKS

FINDING OUT THE OWNERS HOBBY HELPS TOO! AT ONE YARD, IF I NEED A BIG ITEM, LIKE A REAR TRUCK AXLE, I'LL TAKE A FEW OLD BOTTLES (HE COLLECTS BOTTLES) EVEN IF THEY ARE BASICALLY ALMOST WORTHLESS TO HIM, HE APPRECIATES THE GESTURE, AND ONCE AGAIN.I LEAVE WITH A BIG ITEM, AT THE SUPER REDUCED RATE!

I THINK MY ONE PIECE HEADMAN HEDDER WAS $105 AT ADVANCE AUTO 10? YEARS AGO, IT HAS A LIFETIME WARRANTY. I ELIMINATED MOST OF THE MANIFOLD BOLTS, EXCEPT THE COUPLE OF "HAVE TOs" AND REPLACED THEM WITH GRADE 8 STUDS. THIS MADE IT REAL EZ TO "HANG" AND BOLT INTO PLACE.I THINK IT HAS A TAG WELDED ON IT, I MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE NUMBER IF YOU WANT IT

WE'LL DISCUSS THE "USELESS BOX LATER"---WITH A LITTLE MORE INVESTIGATION.

SAMES GOES FOR THE AIR/ FUEL GAUGE

SEND PICS, I'LL VERIFY YOUR VACUUM STUFF

AM I AIDING YOU MUCH AT ALL. YOU SEEM TO BE DOING REALLY GOOD WITH GETTING YOUR BUDDY SQUARED AWAY!

SEND A PIC OF YOUR MANUALS TOO

THE MEDIC
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Wednesday, February 29th, 2012 AT 7:34 AM
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Yeah im stuck outside, laying in the rocks and hoping it doesnt rain and is nice outside on my days off. Speaking of, looks like I should get to work! But I remembered a few things so I figured i'd update you.

When I was talking to the P.O.(Original owner) he said that it originally had the t-5 in it but he went thru 3 of them in the first year and a half. That the casing would stretch and stop working. Everytime it happened he said the warranty covered it, and the last time (in 84, I believe is what he said) they gave up on the t-5 and put the 4 speed in it, so it should be whatever 4 speed tranny they used in 84 which according to the novak links its the t-4. But ill still take some pics of the casting numbers to double check.

Im almost positive its got the dana 300 t-case, but ill take some pics of that too for comparison. Looks like ive got tons of pictures to take today, so off I go. Will be back later today to update!
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Wednesday, February 29th, 2012 AT 1:53 PM
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Well I was out there for 45 mins working on putting in the floor when it started to rain. So ive been sitting inside twiddling thumbs and researching since. This sucks! On my day off its gonna rain.

Sure if you dont mind ill take the number for the header. Since ill have to do some work there anyway. You've definately been a big help! Thanks alot!

Still been thinking of that O2 sensor idea you had mentioned in the links. Will probably do that when I redo the exhaust. Do you have a parts list for that job? Would greatly help.

Still no luck with the wiring, had only gotten started on the floor when the clouds decided to start leaking all over the place. Once its back in place im gonna do some bed liner. Cant remember if I already mentioned it or not. I tend to forget little stuff like that.

Hopefully itll clear up before it gets too late, or its better tomorrow. Weather channel says tomorrows gonna be nice, but what do they know? It seems like they just draw a ticket out of the hat and read it each day for the weather.

Its funny you mention about the junkyard tips. I just found out last week theres a junkyard tucked in the back of a housing development about 5 miles from my house. Lived here all my life and never even heard of it. And when I drove past it for the first time I saw several jeeps just from the front. Hopefully ill be able to find the connector I need, or anything else ill need in the near future. For how close it is I might start going there before I go to the parts store, see if I can get it for cheaper. Grab the few things you mentioned. Make some small talk see what they like and bring some goodies next time I go. Smart man you are!
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Wednesday, February 29th, 2012 AT 7:44 PM
Tiny
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PLUGS LOOK FANTASTIC

HERE'S AN OLD PIC OF WHAT I HAVE--I MAYBE HAVE ACQUIRED 5 OTHER ONES SINCE

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/2007-ford-taurus-tune-up

IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED, I HAVE CHRONIC "CRS"

I HATE HUNTING AND PECKING SO MUCH, I MAKE MANY TYPO MISTAKES

I WANT TO GIVE YOU MEGA INFO---STUFF NO ONE GAVE ME, I HAD TO GO TO THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS AND HAVE YET TO GET A DIPLOMA......THE "LINKING" KEEPS THE PECKING DOWN ON MY END

THIS IS MY O2 INFO CENTER FOR WHAT I HAVE DONE TO MINE....IN FACT SOMEONE SHOWED ME THIS LONG AGO, I WAS INTERESTED BUT HAD NO CLUE HOW TO GET TO IT.

I WAS 100% NON-CYBER UNTIL I BROKE MY FOOT AT WORK (IMMA SERVICE PLUMBER) AND HAD MANY COMPLICATIONS WITH IT. I WAS LAID UP BEGINNING 19 DEC 08 FOR QUITE SOME TIME. MY SISTER AND FRIENDS HELPED ME ALONG IN FIGURING OUT THIS TV-LIKE BEAST.

MY 1ST QUESTION HERE, AT 2CAR, WAS ASKING ABOUT HOW TO FIND THE SITE I'M ABOUT TO GIVE YOU.......AS I WAITED WEEKS AND WEEKS (THEN A FEW MONTHS), ASKING DIFFERENT WAYS, SUBMITTING MULTIPLE TIMES FOR A "FREE ANSWER"......I NOTICED HOW THE CJs GOT "ONE LINER" NOT VERY HELPFUL ANSWERS....I MADE THAT MY CRUSADE, TO AID THE CJs (AND OTHERS)....I FOUND I COULD ANSWER TOO! I ANSWERED FOR FREE, MAYBE 700 QUESTIONS.

THEN I SORTA WAS "TRANSFERRED FROM NOBODY" TO "EXPERT" (WITH SOME COMPENSATION), I NEVER REQUESTED/ APPLIED FOR THIS UPGRADE! I WAS UPGRADED WHEN THE SITE GOT REMODELED. I THINK THIS IS COOL! I'VE BEEN A PLUMBER SINCE 1989, AFTER SEVERAL NOTHING JOBS, FRESH OUT OF THE ARMY......NOW AFTER DRAWING WORKERS COMP, BEING RELEASED, DRAWING UNEMPLOYMENT, AND STILL NO PLUMBING JOB AVAILABLE TO ME.....I NOW HAVE STARTED WORKING PART-TIME AT ADVANCE AUTO (THE DANG REGISTER LEARNING IS KILLING ME!)

I WAS TUNING MY CARB, WHILE UNABLE TO DRIVE! I STARTED OUT WITH THE VOLTMETER ONLY, THEN FOUND, THE AIR/ FUEL GAUGE WAS EZier TO SEE THE RESULTS---THE 1ST AIR/ FUEL WAS REALLY CHEAP AND CRAPPY THE 2ND ONE WAS BETTER......THEY MAKE HIGH DOLLAR ONES TOO! GOTTA REMEMBER WHILE I WAS MESSING WITH THIS, MY BUDDIES WERE DRIVING ME AROUND/ DOING MY TESTING, AND I WAS IN A CAST AND ON CRUTCHES/ WHEEL CHAIR. I DID ALL OF MY WELDING AT MY PALS SHOP, LAYING ON THE FLOOR WITH MR. CAST ON. LEANED ON THE CRUTCHES TO CHANGE MY JETS

I JUST LOCATED THE HEADER TAG---HAS "HEDMAN HEDDERS" AND MADE IN USA, I SAW NOTHING ELSE STAMPED ANYWHERE. IF ADVANCE CANNOT FIND IT (BEEN 10 YEARS OR SO) HEDMAN SURELY WILL GIVE YOU THE INFO AND A DISTRIBUTOR....I WILL TAKE MORE PICS OF IT IF YOU WANT ME TO.

http://www.hedman.com/

IF I GET SOME FREE TIME REAL SOON, I'LL TRY TO MAKE YOUR WIRING FOR YOUR EXTERIOR LIGHTS EZier TO FIGURE OUT

KEEP THE INFO FLOWING---I NEED TO LOCATE YOU EMAIL IN MY MESS, TO SEND MORE ALBUMS

THE MEDIC
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Wednesday, February 29th, 2012 AT 9:20 PM
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Alright! Update time yet again. Got the floor all done this morning. Did a little inspecting on the trans/t-case. Got some pictures for ya. The trans had a borg-warner logo on the driver side, and a number printed on the other side of "35" its a 4 speed. Couldnt remember if thats already been mentioned or not. But that narrows it down the the T4 or the SR4. Solved the mystery, its a Dana 300 t-case. Got some pics to show it. Says it right on it! Had to wire brush through the grease to get down to it, same with the markings on the tranny. There may be more on the trans, but these were the only 2 that I could find without spending plenty of time cleaning it up. I vaguely saw these ones and cleaned it up to clarify them. You'll see below.

Drained the fluid (trans), than refilled it with the 80-90W gear oil. So that will be good for now. Sure was a real PIA to get the fill/drain plus loose. Do you know how to drain the t-case? I was looking and only saw 1 plug, im assuming the fill plug, but not a drain one. It appears to have a bottom pan that comes off similar to automatic transmissions. But thats going to be a big PIA. Would have to drop the skid plate to do that. Diff's are still on the list too.

The floors actually looking pretty good. Considering it started off as a flat detour sign. Ive created a motto for this project, "it doesnt have to look good, its only got to work." This explains one of the pics im gonna post. I made brackets to help hold the floor in place. In the shape of an L and I riveted it on to body thru the outside. Tough to explain but youll see the picture.

Got all your albums, still working on looking through them.
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 3:23 AM
Tiny
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I LIKE!!!

READ THE BEGINNING OF THIS---TALKS OF "FORD" OVAL ON TOP OF SR-4----AND OTHER WAYS TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THEM....THEY ARE REALLY SIMILAR.

REMEMBER THE T-4 AND T-5 USE DEXRON II AUTO TRANNY JUICE----DON'T RELY ON ME TOTALLY YOU VERIFY THIS TOO!

http://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/borg-warner-sr4/

AS FAR AS A DRAIN ON THE DANA 300

LOOK THRU HOLE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE SKID PLATE, THERE SHOULD BE A PLUG IN THE BOTTOM OF THE COVER

JUST A NOTE--IN CASE YOU DO PULL THE SKID PLATE FOR SOME REASON, YOU MUST SUPPORT THE FLAT PORTION OF THE "BELL HOUSING" WITH A BLOCK OF WOOD (AGAINST THE ALUMINUM) A JACK OR JACK STAND AGAINST IT...TAKE OUT ALL OF THE SLACK WITH THE JACK OR SHIMS

FAILURE TO SUPPORT THE WEIGHT OF THE ENGINE/TRANNY/TRANSFER CASE WILL RESULT IN BREAKING SOMETHING ON YOUR EXHAUST SYSTEM AS THE REAR LOWERS DOWN....MIGHT BE THE PIPE/ FLANGE/ MANIFOLD.....OTHER CRAP ON THE FIREWALL COULD BE CRUNCHED BY THE VALVE COVER.

DIMMER?....SEE MY ANSWER HERE

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1973-ford-f-350-headlights

BETTER GET A HANDLE ON THAT RUST BELOW THE DOOR---I SORTA LET MINE GET OUTTA HAND---I'M GETTING CLOSE TO JUMPING ON IT (I THINK I FINALLY GOT MY TRANNY STRAIGHT, THE RUST HOLES ARE NEXT.

I HAVE ALREADY GROUND OUT THE RUST AND TREATED THE METAL WITH RUST INHIBITOR.....NEXT WILL BE FIBERGLASS ON THE INSIDE AND BONDO ON THE OUTSIDE....I STILL HAVE SOME LEFTOVER PAINT FROM MY PAINT JOB 8 YEARS AGO.....I'M ASHAMED TO SHOW MY PICS OF HOW I HAVE LET MY BUDDY DOWN, THIS IS AFTER I GROUND OUT EVERY FLAKE OF RUST

I JUST RE-INSTALLED THE TRANNY AND TRANFER CASE FOR THE 7TH TIME. TEST DRIVE VERIFIES THAT 2ND-3RD SYNCRONIZER WAS BAD. I BUILT IT WITH ALL NEW INNARDS ABOUT A YEAR AGO---2ND GEAR NEVER SHIFTED RIGHT (IT WOULD GO, BUT REAL NOISY). PRETTY MUCH I PULLED IT OVER AND OVER WITH A TRANSMISSION MAN WATCHING OVER ME. USING "THIS AND THAT" LITTLE PART FROM THE COMPANY I GOT THE KIT FROM DID NOT FIX IT. THEY DID FINALLY SEND THE WHOLE SYNCRONIZER, IT WAS FROM A DIFFERENT MANUFACTURER, AND HAD NO PLAY BETWEEN THE SLEEVE AND THE HUB. I DROVE IT ABOUT FIVE MILE---UP-SHIFTING AND DOWN-SHIFTING.........SOUNDS AND FEELS AS GOOD AS IT SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST TIME I INSTALLED IT!

I'M SO GLAD I CALLED THE COMPANY BACK, IN THE BEGINNING AND HAD MY DILEMMA PUT "ON RECORD".

KEEP ME POSTED--YOUR PICS ARE GREAT--ANYONE FOLLOWING YOUR THREAD WILL SEE WHAT MOTIVATION IS ALL ABOUT

DID YOU GET A MILLION ALBUMS?

THE MEDIC

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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 6:46 AM
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According to the links youve posted one of the differences is the shift pattern. And according to them, mine would be a T4. It shows the SR4 has reverse to the left and forward, where mine is to the right and back. There seems to be debate on what fluid is used in the T4/T5, ive searched it a bit. The story seems to be that Borg-warner originally suggested using 80-90W gear oil but they further studied it after releasing them, and somewhere around '85 released that they found that dexronII ATF would coat the entire inside better, and cause less stress in cold weather conditions than the gear oil did. But they didnt find a significant difference in warm weather conditions. I found a bit more but nothing really worth mentioning, just a list of similarities between using gear oil or ATF. Than of course theres the guys who do their own combination; half ATF/half gear oil, Mixtures of gear oil with 5W-30 motor oil, or even running strictly 10w-40 motor oil in it, etc. I think ill just leave the gear oil in there since its fresh. Maybe before next winter ill switch it over to the ATF for winter purposes than leave it.

Will lok further into the drain hole on the t-case. That seems to have a consistant claim of strictly gear oil in the Dana 300. My newer NP231 t-case on my '88 takes ATF, and the AX15 I swapped in it takes gear oil.

I dont see any progress happening this weekend, ive got work both days, maybe tomorrow morning ill get up early and do the t-case, but thats about it. Will keep you posted as I work.
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Saturday, March 3rd, 2012 AT 3:31 PM
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Well I found the drain plug like you mentioned. Pulled the plug and drained it. Still had the factory filled AMC special fluid that from what ive researched is a gear oil/ATF mix. Brownish tint, smells like ass. Filled it back up with the gear oil, now its good to go. Removed both diff covers, and cleaned them up and repainted them. Theyre drying overnight, and will be put back on tomorrow before I have to work.

Fixed the wiring issue with the front turn signals/running lamps. Its actually really stupid what the problem is. I had ordered entire new front turn signal lamp assembly's. The problem is that it was wired backwards from the factory; so that when the running lights came on it was the brighter filament, and the turn signal would flash the less bright filament which you could only notice if you looked closely. So to keep the factory like connector, I cut them between the lamp and the connector and wired them to the opposite wire to switch it. (Red to black, and black to red)

The rear AMC 20 axle has torx head bolts that held the diff cover on, which are fine. Except they havent been moved in almost 30 years. So I went to the local hardware store and got regular hex head bolts to replace them with. I got a bit worried as I tried breaking them free, some had almost stripped out completely. I got lucky that they all came loose.

Ran a line of caulk over where my new floor overlaps on the original metal to keep as much water out as possible.

Will comtinue working on it tomorrow! And keep ya posted.
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Tuesday, March 6th, 2012 AT 1:02 AM
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Thought you might like this picture I found
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Tuesday, March 6th, 2012 AT 1:08 AM
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THANKS FOR THE WILLY PIC!

MY TRANNY MAN (I USE HIM WITH AUTOMATICS) SAYS HE'S SEEN MORE T-4s AND T-5s TORN UP THAN ANY OTHER MANUAL TRANNY. HE RECOMMENDS EITHER STRIGHT 80W-90 OR 85W-90---OR EVEN A MIX OF THE TWO WITH 50% OR LESS DEXRON MIXED WITH IT. HE SAYS THE DEXRON ALONE DOES NOT LUBRICATE WELL ENOUGH AFTER IT GETS HOT.

I RECKON I SHOULDA AIDED YOU WITH THIS----OR YOU SHOULDA ASKED! SEE MY ANSWER ON OCTOBER 16th ON THIS POST---THIS IS THE BESTUST WAY TO REMOVE 'EM---SLING 'EM IN THE WOODS AND REPLACE WITH GRADE 5 OR 8 HEX BOLTS. THE WHOLE JEEP IS FASTENED TOGETHER WITH THEM, I THINK SOMEONE IN THE COMPANY HAD "INTEREST" IN A TORX MANUFACTURER. MOST OF MINE HAVE BEEN REPLACED

THE MEDIC
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Tuesday, March 6th, 2012 AT 1:25 AM
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FORGOT THE LINK!

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/2008-saturn-outlook-remove-rr-brake-rotor-outlook-necessary-torx-retainer-same-o

THE MEDIC
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Tuesday, March 6th, 2012 AT 1:26 AM
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Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I filled both the tranny and t-case with the 80-90W gear oil, maybe instead of completely draining it when the winter comes around ill drain just a bit and top it off with the ATF. Ill have to remember that method for the torx bolts in future use. Lucked out today.

I did notice that my steering box is leaking a semi decent amount. Its got a 6 inch round area in the rocks thats covered in the power steering fluid. Looks like the seal right where the sttering shaft goes into the box. Will snap some pictures tomorrow. Still havent done anything with the lock lug nuts, been procrastinating it because I know the brakes is where its going to get expensive. But ill keep the motto in mind, "If it ain't broke, than don't fix it!"

Im sure the peugeot BA10/5 is one tranny that definately gets trashed more than the t4/5's. Thats what was in my '88 jeep. The local jeep shop, which specializes in trannys, says that there such pieces o' crap that he refuses to work on them or order any parts for them. So I upgraded to the AX-15. Was a fairly simple swap. The most extensive part was cracking open the t-case and switching the input shaft. Had a different spline count. Ill post ya some pics from the swap.
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Tuesday, March 6th, 2012 AT 1:47 AM
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Well its official. Ive completed the entire fluid change on the vehicle (minus the brake fluid which is next) tranny, t-case, and diffs are now good to go! The diffs went smoothly hardest part was breaking loose the fill plugs on both front and rear. And pumping that gear oil while laying on my back sure is exhausting. BUT its all done.

NEXT: Get the lock lugs off, brakes, exhaust, herculiner on the entire inside floor, put seats back in, install lift springs, hit the junkyard see what I can find for misc. Parts I need, and whatever else I find along the way. At least its kind of starting to look like a jeep again. Good thing thursday is pay day!

Pic 1: front diff ready for fluid
pic 2: rear diff cover iinstalled with new hardware. Think it looks nice with the black paint.
Pic 3, 4, 5: steering box leak points from different angles'
pic 6: front turn signal assembly rewired to work right
pic 7: looks like it could use a front bumper. Eventually
pic 8: rust/rot on windshield frame. To be replaced eventually
pic 9: rear view
pic 10: floor with dried caulking

whattaya think of the progress?
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Tuesday, March 6th, 2012 AT 7:33 PM
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IN CJ #4, I INSTALLED A BENCH SEAT UP FRONT OUT OF A SMALL TRUCK I CAME ACROSS IN THE SALVAGE YARD

I HAD TO IMPROVISE SOME BRACKETS (I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT CAME OUT OF) THE SEAT DID TILT FORWARD AND PASSENGERS IN THE REAR WERE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT, MY NERF BAR DID HELP OUT. IT WAS BLACK AND REALLY LOOKED FACTORY INSTALLED. WE EVEN MADE A DRAWER THE ALMOST FULL WIDTH, THAT PULLED OUT UNDER IT, FOR STORAGE. I WISH I HAD TAKEN PICS WAY BACK THEN

BEST OF ALL, YOU COULD SQUEEZE A FEMALE UP CLOSE TO YOU. I REMEMBER WATCHING AN EPISODE OF THE "SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN", WAY BACK THERE WHEN I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH, WHERE HE DROVE UP IN A CJ WITH A BENCH SEAT. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED A JEEP FOREVER AND I REALLY PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO ANY I SAW ANYWHERE!

I LIKED THE "A-TEAM" SORTA AT 1ST, BUT COULD NOT BEAR TO WATCH THEM DESTROY JEEP AFTER JEEP ON THE SHOW.I ALWAYS WANTED TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE SHOW AND ASK IF THEY COULD JUST CUT ONE "JEEP DESTRUCTION SCENE" AND JUST LET ME HAVE THE "SACRIFICIAL JEEP", I WOULD LOVE IT AND HUG IT AND SQUEEZE IT.I NEVER GOT UP THE NERVE TO TRY IT, WHEN I WAS A YOUNGIN. I WOULD DO IT NOW! I LEARNED HOW TO USE MY PAIR WHEN I WAS IN 1ST RANGER BATTALION!

YOU ARE DEFINITELY DOIN' YOUR BABY RIGHT! I ENJOY SEEING YOUR PROGRESS EACH TIME YOU POST, OTHERS WHO READ THRU THEM WILL BENEFIT TOO.

DID YOU LOOK THRU MY ALBUMS, PARTICULARLY "STEERING GEAR" AND SEE THE BRACE I MADE TO KEEP THE FRAME FROM TWISTING?

"PURPLE POWER", SPRAYED ON WITH A PUMP UP SPRAYER, SIT 10 MIN, THEN BLAST OFF AT THE CAR WASH, WILL GET RID OF MOST OF THAT OIL AND GREASE EVERYWHERE

A STEAM CLEANER WOULD KNOCK IT OFF FAST TOO, IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ONE. MY WIFE BOUGHT A LITTLE TEA KETTLE LIKE VERSION TO CLEAN BATHROOM TILE AND OTHER STUFF. I FOUND IT'S A LITTLE SLOW, BUT STARTING AT THE TOP AND WORKING DOWN, IT WILL TAKE IT OFF AS GOOD AS AN INDUSTRIAL MODEL WILL. SURPRISINGLY THE LITTLE POT WILL LAST A GOOD WHILE BEFORE IT HAS TO BE REFILLED WITH WATER.

YOU MUST LOSE THOSE GHETTO WIPERS!

THE CORRECT ONES ARE 11 INCH. AFTER YOU GET THE RIGHT FIXTURE (THEY SORTA ROTATE ON) YOU CAN NEXT TIME BUY A 22 INCH BLADE ONLY, CUT IT IN HALF TO "REFILL" THE HOLDER (SOON YOU WILL FIND THE TYPE THAT WILL SLIDE IN CORRECTLY).

KEEP POSTING, I AND SEVERAL OTHERS LIKE TO SEE YOUR PROGRESS

YOU ALSO NEED TO GET A GARAGE, IN MY PICS, MY LAMINATED LARGE SCALE '79 WIRING DIAGRAM HANGS ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL LOCKER, MY "CASTERIZED" OFFICE CHAIR, AND THE SIGN WIFEY BOUGHT ME TO HANG ON THE DOOR INTO THE HOUSE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN JUST CLOSE THE DOOR AND BE OUT OF THE WEATHER! IT WAS NOT UNTIL 6 YEARS AGO THAT I GOT THIS LUXURY MYSELF.I HAVE TO FEUD WITH THE WIFE TO USE HER SIDE TO WORK ON MR. JEEP AND KEEP WILLY SAFE AND DRY OUT OF THE WEATHER AT THE SAME TIME

THE MEDIC
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Wednesday, March 7th, 2012 AT 2:26 AM
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Yeah a garage would definately make this so much better. i could be out there working on it now!! wouldnt that be nice. plan on cleaning up the steering box. did finally get through seeing all of the albums you sent me. what do you mean by the brace stopping the frame from twisting? a buddy of mine is a certified mechanic. works for the military so he's legit certified in everything. he hasnt even seen this jeep other than by pictures yet and hes glad to know im working alone when it comes to the actual physical work part. hes replaced some seals on my 88 jeep steering box and he says it looks like its the same issue with this one.

had a little issue with that jeep today... see if you have any idea with it.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1988-jeep-yj-bucking-while-driving

plan on getting back out there tomorrow morning, weather should be a good day and thursday is my day off! so plenty of work should get done over the next 2 days. as long as my wallet can keep up with it.
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Wednesday, March 7th, 2012 AT 3:01 AM

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