Soft brake pedal after flushing brakes

Tiny
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  • 2011 KIA SEDONA
  • 3.5L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 62,000 MILES
I am the original owner. No prior problems with brakes. Brake pedal gradually started feeling soft. Recently put new pads front and rear. Checked brake fluid it looked milky not transparent but not too dark as in some videos. Replaced fluid and bled the calipers. Brakes are good, but ever since I bled brakes the pedal feels even softer and with the engine running if press hard it goes to the floor. On a go it takes a light tap to stop the vehicle. If press harder wheels start skidding on a dry surface with ABS doing its job. In other words no problem with brakes performance. The only concern is the soft to the floor brake pedal. Performed flash with a helper pumping brakes. No warning lights present. What is the likely cause: air trapped in ABS module, damaged seal on master cylinder or something else?
Thank you.
Monday, September 24th, 2018 AT 5:05 AM

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Tiny
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Good afternoon.

It sounds like you still have air. I would consider renting a brake pressure bleeder. It will force any air in the system out during normal bleeding operations.

If you have all the air out, then yes, it sounds like a master cylinder internal issue.

Roy

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-pedal-goes-to-the-floor
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Monday, September 24th, 2018 AT 11:04 AM
Tiny
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Thank you Roy.

I understand the is a primary and a secondary circuits. And to get rid of air from secondary you need to hook up to a computer so it actuate solenoids in certain sequence. Is it the same tool you referring to?
Thank you.
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Monday, September 24th, 2018 AT 4:22 PM
Tiny
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Yes, it is a scan tool not a code reader. It needs to access the ABS system and then do the automated bleed sequence.

Roy
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Monday, September 24th, 2018 AT 4:25 PM
Tiny
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Sorry, I m not very savvy in this department. Where do I rent one from? How much are they? Is it worth investment? Is it straight forward to use? I bought Lemur code reader and think it was worth every penny.
Thanks again.
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Monday, September 24th, 2018 AT 4:43 PM
Tiny
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A scan tool will run about $2,000.00 to $3,000.00.

It is well worth having someone do it for you for about $50.00 to $60.00.

Call a parts store and see if they will rent you one. If they do let me know the model and I will help.

Roy
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Monday, September 24th, 2018 AT 4:51 PM

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