Mechanics

CAR JUST DIED WITHOUT ANY WARNING

2006 Mitsubishi Outlander

Engine Mechanical problem
2006 Mitsubishi Outlander 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 105000 miles

My wife's outlander just died on her while she was driving without any warning and now it will not start. Please help me with this.

Some things I know:

1.) It is not the timing belt, I checked it and it is not broken.

2.) The fuel pump is working fine and gas is getting to the motor. I made sure by disconnecting the line where it enters the motor and turned it over a few times. (Plenty of gas.)

Please help me with this problem as there are no repair shops within three hours from me that know anything about Mitsubishi.

Thanks,

Chris R.
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Reduen
July 2, 2010.




Ok, so obviously I have done something wrong here as I have replaced the camshaft position sensor and the car still will not start.

What I know is, I have followed the cam position sensor diagnostic that you sent me and I have now replaced the sensor itself.

I have battery positive voltage at terminal 3. (Harness side)

I have 5 volts at terminal 2 with key on. (Harness side)

I have continuity of less than 2 ohms at terminal 1. (Harness side.)

I guess I am now moving on to the crankshaft sensor. Any more advice would be much appreciated.

Chris

Tiny
Reduen
Jul 9, 2010.
Have you confirmed that there are no sparks?

KHLow2008
Jul 9, 2010.
Yes I am pretty sure that I did this correctly as the tutorial that I found did not specificaly deal with a vehicle that has individual coils for each plug like mine has.

Also, I removed the timing belt case since my last post and took the crankshaft sensor off.

My timing belt has teeth missing all around the crankshaft pulley. Is this typical of when a sensor goes out?

Chris

Tiny
Reduen
Jul 9, 2010.
That is very bad news. The timing belt has given way and hopefully the engine has not been damaged.

KHLow2008
Jul 9, 2010.
Does this mean that more than likely I just need to replace the belt and then check the valves and stuff?

Tiny
Reduen
Jul 9, 2010.
Yes, the timing belt has to be replaced and you need to check the valves to ensure that they have not been damaged.

KHLow2008
Jul 9, 2010.
Well, I finally got the timing belt replaced and tried to start the car and had no luck.

I had real problems finding out where the timing mark was on the crankshaft side as it looks nothing like the descriptions and pictures that I have in the service manual. The only real identifying mark that I could find was a half circle cutout on the crankshaft/camshaft sprocket, right to the left of the key that holds the pulley in place. After many conversations with very unhelpful repair people, that is the mark I went with. (Hope that it is right.)

When the vehicle did not start, I decided to run a scan again and you will never guess what code came up. It was a camshaft sensor malfunction code!

So, I am now waiting for the new camshaft sensor to come in tomorrow and then I will replace it again.

Tiny
Reduen
Jul 15, 2010.
You should have come back here if you require additional assistance.

Check if the following diagrams are helpful.


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig29_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig41_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig42_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig43_1.jpg



If the timing had been installed incorrectly, it can cause the cam sensor to show an error too.

Did you check the valve clearances? That is to ensure the valves had not been damaged due to the timing belt failing.

Intake is 0.11 mm ( 0.004 in)
Exhausr is 0.20 mm ( 0.008 in)
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KHLow2008
Jul 16, 2010.
This is the problem, in figure 42 (the crankshaft figure.) It says " aligning timing mark on cranckshaft sprocket with timing mark on (?) Case.&Quot; On my vehicle there is no mark on the sprocket itself except that half moon cutout that I reffered to earlier.

There is another hole drilled into the angle sensing blade that is behind the cranckshaft sprocket but no other marks to go by.

I finally got a mitsubishi parts guy to tell me that the half circle shaped mark in the sprocket would be the right mark but it was very clear that he did not really know for sure.

Tiny
Reduen
Jul 16, 2010.
The half moon cut is the correct mark for the crankshaft. To reconfirm, you can use the timing mark on the pulley and the timing cover to verify.

KHLow2008
Jul 16, 2010.

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