Timing Belt

Tiny
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You don't HAVE to replace the timing belt, but the mechanic is looking out for you in the long run. Replacing it is a big job that, based on the mileage, will be necessary in a few years. The belt must be removed to replace the water pump, so to replace it with a new one doesn't require any additional labor, just the cost of the new belt.

Your car was definitely not designed for ease of service, however, I looked up the labor times on Chrysler's web site, and was real surprised to see that they only allow 2.3 hours to replace the water pump. That's warranty time which is tight even under ideal conditions. Out-of-warranty times are always a little longer to include such things as broken or rusty bolts.

I didn't look for the cost of a remanufactured water pump, but I would guess it is less than $100.00. A timing belt is typically around 50 bucks. Figure another 50 bucks for antifreeze, gasket sealers or other incidentals, and that still leaves $750.00 for labor. Even if you allowed 3.0 houurs, that's $250.00 per hour for labor. Due to the vey high cost of updating test equipment and leasing service information, most shops have to charge $100.00 to break even. I don't know of any shop that's worth $250.00 per hour.

The 2.3 hours seems way too little time, but to be safe, I would suggest calling a couple of different shops for a second opinion. Be sure to include everything on the itemized estimate if you have one.

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Hi, I noticed that my car stopped producing heat when I was stopped at a stop light. I was told it was either my radiator leaking or a problem with my water pump. I took it to a local repair shop and was told that the water pump is leaking and needs to be replaced. I was also told that my timing belt should be replaced. I looked at my history of repairs and noticed that my timing belt was changed about 2 years ago (when my mileage was at 74K. It's now at about 117K). Should I still need to have the timing belt changed since it was done so recently? Thanks!
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Unless the belt is stretched or damaged then it wouldn't need replaced with just the 45k miles you put on it. With the faulty pump, it may have damaged the timing belt though and that is why the repair shop says it needs replaced as well. Since they are replacing water pump, should go ahead and replace timing belt anyway because it must be removed in process of replacing water pump
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Im replacing the timing belt on a 2002 dodge stratus with dohc, I have all of the pulleys and parts in the correct locations, but for some reason I cant get the actual belt to fit around them. I double checked to make sure I had the correct belt for my vehicle, do you have any pointers or suggestions on how to make the belt fit properly?
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Tiny
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I show a chain for the 2.7L in an Intrepid. Don't have the service manual for a Stratus. If you have a belt, look for a hydraulic tensioner and pulley. Most likely that tensioner has to be removed, squeezed in a vise, then there will be a small hole to stick a cotter pin or small nail to hold it retracted while you install it. You can pull that pin out once the belt is installed.
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While driving my 2000 Dodge Stratus, I noticed it seemed to be slowing down even as I pushed on the gas pedal harder. It was then I noticed the engine was no longer running at all. It just stopped right in the middle of the road. Luckily, I was able to pull off onto a side street and safety. The car would not restart at all. Not one little single solitary little click. BUT all the electrical worked. Radio, windows, power steering, air conditioning. I heard no loud noise when the car died. No clunks, no bangs. Nothing.

The mechanic is looking now and I am waiting for the call. I anticipate a timing belt break. Whatis necessary to repair it?
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Hi
Well if belt you have an interference engine. That means when belt goes pistons hit valves bending them. So head comes off and valves replaced new belt. And it will be a little pricey.
Sorry to bring bad news
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Thursday, June 18th, 2020 AT 3:14 PM (Merged)
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Ok--I have confirmation it was a timing belt (interference engine) and resulted in bending valves. Again--just to confirm--this will result in a new engine as the best option? I am having it moved to a different shop (the ones who did the assessment do not do engine replace/repairs).

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No need for new engine remove cylinder heads replace the bent valves, new belt and your back on the road. Not all valves will be bent just the cylinders that valves wher open at the time belt broke
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Wow mottone, thank you for virtually copying and pasting my question word-for-word (see question titled "2001 Dodge Stratus just stopped on me while driving" posted on July 15th). I got the answer I needed! Thank you!
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2001 Dodge Stratus 4 cyl dual ohcam
timing belt broke no noise
Is this motor an interference?
Can timing belt be replaced without removing engine?
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Tiny
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Can't remember about the 6 cylinder engine but yes, the 4 cylinder is an interference engine. The belt can be replaced without removing the engine. I only show a single cam for the 2.0L engine but I only have a 2000 service manual. My suggestion is to install the belt but do a compression test before you put everything back together. If compression is good on all cylinders, the dohc might not be an interference engine.
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Thursday, June 18th, 2020 AT 3:15 PM (Merged)
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The DOHC is a free wheeling engine but it can make valve to valve contact if the cams are rotated independently. It can be done in the car but it's tight.
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I replaced the timing belt after it broke. Checked and double checked the timing I am certain it is correct. Car runs rough at idle and sometimes dies but runs smoothly when driving and RPM's are up. Performed compression test and found cylinders 1, and 2 at 205 PSI found cylinder 3 at 175 psi and #4 at 150 psi. My question is with the 2.4 DOCH engine in this Stratus is valve train damage all most certain. I am very familiar with GM but don't have much of experience with Chrysler products. I am a a soldier hwo just returned from Iraq and am fixing my car my self as I don't have allot of funds available.
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Thursday, June 18th, 2020 AT 3:15 PM (Merged)
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Thank you for your service.

Yes, valve damage occurs when the belt breaks, but it is usually much more severe than simply running roughly. The compression readings suggest the valves aren't the problem. Did the belt really break or just jump a tooth or two?

If you had the battery disconnected, the Engine Computer will have to relearn minimum throttle. To meet the conditions for that to occur, drive at highway speed with the engine warmed up, then coast for at least seven seconds without touching the brake or gas pedals.

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Tiny
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Yes the belt did break the engine was at idle in traffic.
Thank you for your insight. I have don nothing but city driving since the repair. I will give this procedure a try. Thanks again
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