Won't engage forward or reverse gears - kinda

Tiny
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  • 2000 FORD RANGER
  • 3.0L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 203,000 MILES
I have a 3.0L Auto (4R44E) 2000 Ranger, 202K. It had many owners and has a long history of repairs. However it is still fairly stock. The engine was replaced with a reman 99 3.0L. Engine runs nicely, very smooth and has power.

However the trans is a different story. I will document the problem below, but I would like to point out the more we drive the truck the less the problem occurs. But all we have to do is let it sit for multiple days and the problem reappears.

Problem;
When placing it in Drive, the trans does not engage a gear. I can pull it into low gear, and same thing, does not engage. I put into reverse, however I get same thing. I have tried many combinations including letting it warm up and nothing changes. However if I rev it a "little" (I know that is not good), more like feather the throttle, it may engage slightly and the truck will move. Once I get the truck to move, it shifts fine up and down. It will engage in reverse and all seems well. But then randomly when stopped at a traffic light or at the local soft server ice cream drive through it will "slip out" of gear and will not reengage until I "feather" the throttle.

I would like to have an idea what is wrong with it before I take it to a trans shop (I currently don’t have relationship with trans shop) for diagnostics. I am worried I will get the automatic $3000 rebuild and it may be a simple fix.

Where should I be looking for the problem? How can I diagnose the problem myself? Any suggestions appreciated.
Wednesday, December 1st, 2021 AT 5:34 PM

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Tiny
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You may need an overhaul of the unit, but this sounds like a fluid issue so let's start there.

Here is a guide that will help with checking the fluid and adding to it if needed:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-and-add-transmission-fluid

Once we know the level and condition of the fluid, we will have a better idea as to what direction to go.

Basically, what is happening is you are losing pressure somewhere. Either due to an internal leak of the transmission, low fluid, or the pump is failing.

The fact that you can give it a little gas and it may engage means you are just raising the RPM of the pump and it is building the pressure enough to get it to engage the gear.

To confirm this, we need to check the pressure using the attached info from the manual.

Please let us know what you find with this, and we can go from there. Thanks
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Friday, December 3rd, 2021 AT 2:52 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for the reply. The fluid is nice and bright red, does not smell bad and the level is between the cross hatch closer to the top mark when warm and at idle. We will attempt to get the pressure this week. Part time situation. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Sunday, December 5th, 2021 AT 7:18 PM
Tiny
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Sounds great. Thanks for the update. We will wait to hear back and go from there. Thanks
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 7:41 AM
Tiny
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Neutral = 150 PSI
Drive = 180 PSI
Reverse = 210 PSI

High?
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Friday, December 10th, 2021 AT 11:07 AM
Tiny
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Yeah. If these were at idle, then you have high line pressure. It is odd that you have no engagement or movement as that is normally an issue from low pressure.

However, the causes of high pressure are low fluid levels or sticking solenoid valves in the valve body.

If it were me, I would drop the pan and see how much metal is there and then remove the valve body and inspect the valves.
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Friday, December 10th, 2021 AT 1:16 PM
Tiny
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Yes, high pressures surprised us as well. Looks like we will drop the pan and look at the solenoids.
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Friday, December 10th, 2021 AT 4:25 PM
Tiny
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Sounds good. Let us know what you find. Thanks
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Saturday, December 11th, 2021 AT 11:34 AM

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