1995 Volkswagen Passat 1995 Volkswagen Passat vr6 will not

Tiny
DAVIDDLW1
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  • 1995 VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 128,000 MILES
I have a 1995 volkswagen passat car, it is a automatic vr6 cylinder engine. My problem is I bought this car from someone which he had the car sitting up a while and decided to sell it. When I purchased the car it had no motor in it but he had a motor he bought from a junk yard and included it with the sell of the car. I installed the engine and hooked up everything which I think is correct because the engine still had all the hoses and vacum lines still attached to it, and the car had the hoses and lines still on it so all I did was to match up them and connect the electrical wires. The wires could only be connected one way because the connectors will only fit to the one it is suppose to. What I am not sure of is where does the large wire coming from the altinator hook up to. I figured it was suppose to hook up on the starter motor with the battery positive cable wire. Is this correct?
the car will not fire up when I turn the car ignition switch, it will not do anything. So I hot jumped the starter directly up to the battery and the starter worked, so I ruled out a bad starter. But even when I done this the car still would not start it would not fire at all.
any suggestions on what could be wrong with the car. I need to know why car would not turn over when I turned the key unless I hot jumped it, and why car will not fire when I hot jumped car by directly hooking up to battery.
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Friday, August 6th, 2010 AT 9:45 PM

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Tiny
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Hi daviddlw1, Welcome to 2carpros and TY for the donation

what I am not sure of is where does the large wire coming from the altinator hook up to. I figured it was suppose to hook up on the starter motor with the battery positive cable wire. Is this correct? This is correct

i need to know why car would not turn over when I turned the key unless I hot jumped it, and why car will not fire when I hot jumped car by directly hooking up to battery.

Okay-I want you to check for power at the red and black wire on the starter small terminal while helper hold key in start position-if there's no power here your possibilites is the park and neutral position relay behind left side of dash and the ignition switch-Let me know-I have help this name before-don't recall when
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Saturday, August 7th, 2010 AT 3:29 AM
Tiny
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Hi again,
I tested the red and black wire that went to the starter like you suggested and there was no power to my test light. Also I did not mention this in my first post but the instrument cluster display will stay on even when I turn the key completely off and take key out of ignition. I have to disconnect the battery cable to turn the display off of the instrument cluster. Is this behavior normal for this car, and if not what will cause this? I also took my fuel pump out of the car and I tested it by hooking up a battery directly to it to see if it would engage, and it did not humm up. So I figure I need a fuel pump also. Would you agree with this or does the fuel pump on this car cannot be tested like I done. Thanks for all the help you give.
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Monday, August 9th, 2010 AT 8:57 PM
Tiny
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About the instrument cluster could be a problem with the ignition switch and wiring the fuel pump direct from the battery should cause the fuel pump to come on in your case its defective
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Monday, August 9th, 2010 AT 9:56 PM
Tiny
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I di d get the housing off the steering shaft and I have installed the ignition switch, but car will still not power up. No lights will power up on the dash panel but the clock and odometer display. And these lights will stay on even when I turn key to off position. I got to thinking that this car is suppied with a radio code to be apllied to when power is disconnected from car for a while. So I turned radio on to see if it would play and it did not but a display came on the screen of the radio saying "safe" on it. Radio or car will not power up until the code is put in the radio. This is what I figure is wrong with car not powering up. Or it could be the anti theft system on car has disable car. Do you agree with any of this I have said or do you think maybe it is something else wrong with car? Since I purchase car second hand and I do ot have the code to car I guess I can call the dealership to get code. If I can obtain code do I just punch it into radio or what is the process to do this? Or what do I do to activate or deactivate my anti theft system on car so I can power car up? Can you guide me through this process or do you think that this not the problem and it is something else. If so can you tell me what I need to do?
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Thursday, August 12th, 2010 AT 9:06 PM
Tiny
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I tested the red and black wire that went to the starter like you suggested and there was no power to my test light. Did you do this while ignition switch at starting position?
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Friday, August 20th, 2010 AT 6:35 PM
Tiny
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Yes I did, I tried starting car with test light connected.
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Friday, August 20th, 2010 AT 7:26 PM
Tiny
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Then there's something wrong with your starter control circuit-start checking the starter relay, transmission range switch and ignition switch
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Friday, August 20th, 2010 AT 7:32 PM
Tiny
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Ok I will chek these items you mention. Can you tell me where the transmission range switch, and the starter relay is located? I see the fuse panel under dash of my car and I see some relays also in the fuse panel, but I do not know which is the starter relay. My cover that covers the fuse panel is missing which would identify the relays and fuses. Also I have already replaced the ignition switch with a new one and a new lock cylinder switch and car still not operating.
I do not know if this means anything but I checked all the other wires that went to battery and they were hot, the altinator large wire is hot also, it is hooked up to the starter along with the large positive wire from battery. The only wire I found not to have a charge on it was the small red and black wire that goes to the starter and I guess the relay switches some where.
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Saturday, August 21st, 2010 AT 9:19 AM
Tiny
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Disregard the transmission rnage switch and check The starting interlock relay is behind left side of dash

Disregard the starter relay, and check the alarm system control module it it has one-same location P/N relay-sorry I have no pics for exact location

Relay Location Above Fuse/Relay Panel:

Power Window Circuit Breaker 30 A
Alarm System Control Module Fuse 10 A
Luggage Compartment Socket Fuse 20 A
Power Seat Fuse 20 A

Auxiliary Relay Panel Below Instrument Panel, Left:

Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Relay (53)
ABS Relay (79)
ABS Hydraulic Pump Relay (179)
Electronic Differential Lock Shut-Off Relay (179)
Starting interlock and Back-Up Light Relay (150)
Automatic Glow Time Control Module (134)
Shut-Off Relay-A/C (129)
ABS Hydraulic Pump Fuse 30 A
ABS Valves Fuse 30 A
Cruise Control Fuse 5 A
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Saturday, August 21st, 2010 AT 3:13 PM
Tiny
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I got the car to turn over by agjusting the shift cable. When I installed the engine I did not install the shift cable to the exact location on the transmission. But still my car will not start and the dash instrument cluster will not light up. Like the oil light, battery light, altinator, check engine lights. So I believe that there is no power to the engine. Is there something that regulates this like the ecm or a relay somewhere? Even the fuel pump will not activate when car is turned on, but fuel pump does work I checked it by directly hooking it up to my 12 volt battery.
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Tuesday, September 7th, 2010 AT 9:27 AM
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