93 4X4 - NEW O2 SENSOR, CHECK ENGINE STILL ON

  • Tiny
  • thaddeus
  • 1993 Toyota Pickup

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1993 Toyota Pickup 4 cyl Four Wheel Drive Manual 209000 miles

I have a 93 4x4 with a 22re and manual tranny. The previous owner rebuilt the engine recently (< 5000k). The check engine light was burned out when I bought it. I fixed that, discovered a code 21 (oxygen sensor) and 25 (lean condition). I discovered the wires to the sensor were a little mangled, so I cut a harness from a junkyard and spliced it in, soldered the joints to make sure they were good. Replaced the oxygen sensor with a bosch unit. The code 25 went away but the code 21 is still there! What should I do next?

the truck also idles high, (1100-1200 rpm when warm) even though the throttle stop is set as low as it can go and the air screw is screwed almost all the way in. I have checked for vacuum leaks, it has all new vacuum hoses.

thanks

Sunday, January 18th, 2009 AT 3:41 PM

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  • thaddeus
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I've been trying to follow the FSM for troubleshooting this problem, and measuring across terminals E1-Vf1 gives me no voltage no matter what. The FSM says to replace the ECM if the oxygen sensor has been replaced and still shows no voltage. Is there a way to test the ECM, or does anyone have advice for other problems to look for?

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Sunday, January 18th, 2009 AT 4:02 PM
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  • KHLow2008
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Hi thaddeus,

Thank you for the donation.

I have here the schematic of the diagram for an understanding of situation.


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_Code21_93Pickup_1.jpg




http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_O2Feedback93Pickup_1.jpg




http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_O2Feedback93Pickup02_2.jpg




http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_O2Feedback93Pickup03_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_O2Feedback93Pickup03b_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_O2Feedback93Pickup03c_1.jpg

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Monday, January 19th, 2009 AT 8:49 AM
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  • thaddeus
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Yes, that's the same page from the FSM that I was looking at. So. Am I correct? If performing this test reads zero voltage, the ECM is at fault?

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Monday, January 26th, 2009 AT 2:47 PM
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  • KHLow2008
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Hi,

You are getting zero voltage from all test carried out?

If it is recommended to substitute the ECM when the test results are negative, then possiblilty the ECM is faulty.

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Thursday, January 29th, 2009 AT 5:38 AM
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  • thaddeus
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I have a substitute ecm to try, but I'm wondering what the possibility is of damaging another ecm if there is some other problem that caused it.

I did do the voltage test, all zero.

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Sunday, February 1st, 2009 AT 10:57 AM
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  • KHLow2008
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If all the testing shows no shorting of sensors or wiring circuits, then there should be no possibility of damaging the ECM.

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Sunday, February 1st, 2009 AT 12:28 PM
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  • thaddeus
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Yep, it was the ECM. I'm guessing that damage to the wires caused a short and burned out the circuit in the ECM. Used one fixed the problem.

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Monday, February 2nd, 2009 AT 6:16 PM

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