Passenger Drive Axle Removal Problems

Tiny
JLUCE
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Trying to replace the old axle with a new one. I removed both the snap ring and the bolt on the carrier/engine mount, and still axle won't come out. There was a good amount of rust behind snap ring and guessing it somehow got between bearing and where it seats into carrier/engine mount. What would be the best way to get it free? Is it possible to remove drivers side axle and pound it out with a large brass punch? Have tried heat, impact hammers and large pry bars and just about ready to try something drastic but don't want to cause additional damage in process. Any help would be great.

Jeff
Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008 AT 7:53 PM

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Tiny
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Hello Jeff !!

which snap ring do you removed?

Here is an schematic of the drive axles of your car:


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/576_camry_4_cyl_95_1.jpg



Let me know to continue..

Good Luck!
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Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008 AT 10:33 PM
Tiny
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Hey Fisherman,
Thanks for the reply.

The larger of the two that keeps the bearing in place. The funny thing is the new axle has no snap ring on the inner spline. Think they are refering to drivers side I know that one does. Let me know if know any tricks to get this out it's driving me crazy.

Jeff
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2008 AT 3:40 PM
Tiny
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Hey Jeff, the one on the inboard joint tulip?
Did you remove the axle shaft bearing bolt also?

That bolt keeps the bearing on place.

Let me know if I`m going wrong.

(tonight I`ll post the bottom portion off the picture (to big and the resolution gets bad when post a big pic.)
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2008 AT 3:55 PM
Tiny
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Yup both the snap ring near bearing close to middle of shaft and bolt are out, and it still won't move. Think it's bound up in that carrier/engine mount. Might try removing driver's side and see if can loosen it up by giving it a few taps. As long as I'm careful should be alright.

Also have used about two full cans of freeze off penetrating oil. It's being really stubborn.

Jeff
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2008 AT 7:27 PM
Tiny
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Hello Jeff !!

I have more pics for you and you`re right... you have to use a hammer and a brass chissel avoiding to damage the bearing..


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/576_camry_4_cyl_95jpg1_1.jpg




https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/576_camry_4_cyl_95jpg12_1.jpg




https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/576_camry_4_cyl_95jpg123_1.jpg



let us know if the info was helpfull !!

Good Luck!!
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2008 AT 7:44 PM
Tiny
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Hello, I am trying to remove an axle nut on my camry to get to the cv joint to replace it. I don't know what size socket I need or where to get one to remove the axle nut. Please help! I have called everyone I know with no help whatsoever and have even chatted online with dealer. Com. I am at a loss. Please help.
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Update! Autozone didn't have it but advanced did! It is a 1/2 in. Drive 30mm deep well 12pt socket! :)
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The driver side axle broke. I got a new one. Apparently there are supposed to be bolts (6 I think) at the transmission to bolt the end of the axle to. I think these bolts broke and caused my failure. Can I replace this thing just inside the transmission without taking the transmission out?
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello

It appears that you can use a slide hammer. I have attached the information. .
Hope this helps


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_Camery_drive_shaft_3_1.jpg




https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_Camery_drive_shaft_1.jpg




https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_Camery_drive_shaft_2_1.jpg


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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I still don't understand what to do. I need to replace the thing at the transmission that has the bolts sticking out and the transaxle bolts to. I guess it's called the side gear. I guess I know what a slide hammer is, but I don't think there is room to use it and how does it attach to the gear? Is the gear pressed on. There are about 5 or 6 bolts around the opening at the gear, and I took them out, but I couldn't figure out why they are there. There also is a covering at the side of the gear which perhaps I could take off. I need more specifics on what to do.
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_1_16.jpg



I will do the best I can to explain and if you still don't understand I will forward to another moderator. If we look at the first pic, the side gear shaft has a snap ring on the end of the shaft that helps hold it in to the transaxle. You need quite a bit of force to pull the side gear shaft out to over come the snap ring holding it in. Thus the use of the slide hammer. The ones I have seen stick out past the end of the axle. . .. . ..long. You may not have one or be able to get one. You might consider checking with a transmission shop and see if they would rent you one. I would imagine it bolts up to the shaft and the nuts that hold the left drive axle shaft to it then hold the slide hammer to it. A couple of good slides and out it should come.

In another section discussion seal replacement, I have attached that for you, as you see in step 5 you need a special tool, SST 09350-32010 or equivalent to drive out the side shaft. In step 7 you need a special tool to install the seal. When you get to step11, you use a different special tool to install.

1. Remove dust cover and fender apron seal.
2. Drain out approximately 1 quart of transaxle fluid.
3. Remove left hand driveshaft as described under ``Speed Sensor, Replace.''
4. Remove speed sensor as described under ``Speed Sensor, Replace.''
5. Using tool SST 09350-32010 or equivalent, drive out side gear shaft.
6. Remove side bearing retainer.
7. Press oil seal out of retainer, and using tool SST 09359-32010 or equivalent, press in new seal to depth of .106 inch.
8. Coat lip of oil seal with suitable grease.
9. Clean bolt and case threads of side bearing retainer attaching bolts, coat threads of bolts with suitable sealer, and torque bolts to 14 ft. lbs.
10. Using tool SST 09520-32010 or equivalent, drive in side gear shaft until it contacts pinion shaft.
11. Install speed sensor as described under ``Speed Sensor, Replace.''
12. Install driveshaft as described under ``Speed Sensor, Replace.''
13. Fill transaxle with approximately 1 quart of transaxle fluid.

You may not have the special tools for this task.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_2_12.jpg




https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_3_6.jpg



If I understand the next part of your question about the gear being pressed on, I have attached a pic of that. As you see you can use a plastic hammer to drive that apart.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_4_5.jpg



Your question about the covering at the side. If we are talking about the same thing, I have attached a pic, you are looking at the bearing retainer which gets you into the deferential area. If you remove this you will need to replace the O ring also.

When reading your reply I sense frustration. . .. . ...I would be. The problem with some areas, like transmissions, they require many different special tools and equipment. Many shops, much less home owners don't have them. Thus many shops contract some things out to specialized shops. The shop you take your car to replaces the front struts on the car. Afterwards, they send it over to the front end shop they work with to have the front end aligned. Once finished the car is returned and you pick it up at the original place. For me I remove the transmissions and drop them off to the shops and pick them up once repaired.

My concern for you, you appear to have the knowledge and skill to perform this task. It is the lack of the special tools and equipment to do it. Another concern is if this axle broke as you said, then seals should be replaced also. The other concern is why did it brake? Did the bolts shear, did the nuts loosen and it began to vibrate and wobble and the stress cause the others to shear? Did the transaxle on that side start to drag and the force of the forward movement of the tire connected to the axle shear the bolts? There may be more there that we can not see.

If these pics do not help you out, if you would like, let me know and I will have one of the other moderators review and assist if possible.

Mechanics are very frustrating at times. You are doing a great job. . .we will do what we can to assist.

Hope this helps
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Sorry to keep bothering you, but I still don't understand, mainly because the diagrams are too small for me to read and I don't understand all the terms. I bought what I call the axle that has the C-V joint and runs from the rotor, where it is splined and held with a nut, to the case, which I guess is the transaxle case. At the case end of the axle is a round flange with 3 sets of 3 holes each around the circle. At the case there are similar 3 sets of 3 holes that apparently match. In the middle hole is a pilot pin and I think the other holes are supposed to have bolts to which the axle attaches with nuts. There are no bolts and it looks as if there are a couple broken ones still in the holes in the case. This is the thing I need to replace. I just had a transmission job last spring and I bet they forgot to tighten the nuts properly, but they are 500 miles from me. So I need to know how to get out this thing in the case that the axle bolts attach to. Perhaps it's called the bearing retainer.
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello you are in no way bothering me so don't concern yourself there. If you provide me an email address I can send the pics to your email, then you can open them up as pictures and use the + and - to make them bigger or smaller. Also, you can right click on the pics, save them to a file on your computer and double click them there and they will open up and you can use the + and- again to make them bigger or smaller.

It is hard not to be standing there, both looking, pointing and talking about the same thing. That is not easy.

Okay, if you look at the first pic I sent Fri Oct 24 at 5:52 pm, there is a picture of the axles, I circled the side gear shaft. From what I see, the axle connects to this with nuts. Bolts are on the side shaft. The side shaft slides into the transaxle. Right behind the side shaft is the left bearing retainer that is bolted onto the transaxle and has the oil seal that the axle slides through. If I understand you correctly you have the axle off. The next thing to remove is what the axle is bolted to, the side shaft. You have to use the slide hammer to remove the side shaft to get to the bearing retainer that is bolted to the transaxle.
Does this help at all..... Are we talking about the same thing? I hope this helps. You are probably correct, improper installation or even defective parts may have made it come apart.
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I guess I understand that the side gear shaft has to be removed with the slide hammer. I'll have to ask a transmission shop about this.
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