One of the solenoid bolts is stripped and I cannot remove the solenoid

Tiny
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The solenoid I’m referring to is under the upper radiator hoses down near engine kind of hard to get at, how can I get this solenoid out and how can I force reset the check engine without a scanner?
Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 1:03 PM

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Tiny
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Hi, David.

I need you to take a picture of the component you are referring to. There really aren't any solenoids where you mentioned.

Take a look at the pic below. Do you see what you are referring to or can you tell me the location? Also, can you tell me what diagnostic trouble code was found?

Take care,

Joe

See pic below.
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 8:13 PM
Tiny
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I have uploaded the codes for you.
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 9:50 PM
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Hi,

The codes are related mostly to the torque converter clutch solenoid. Take a look at the pic below and let me know if that is the component you are referring to.

If that, is it, what is stropped? Is it where the wrench goes on it or are the threads stripped causing the bolt to just turn and not come out?

If it is where the wrench attaches, use a bolt extractor. Basically, it is similar to a socket, but it's designed to cut into the stripped bolt so it can be removed. I attached a pic of what they look like.

As far as the reset, you can disconnect the battery terminals (negative first) and tie the two cables together with a zip tie. Allow it to sit that way for approximately 10 minutes. That will drain any power from capacitors. That should reset it. If it doesn't, it will turn itself off after a few trips where there isn't an issue.

When reconnecting the battery, start with the positive and then connect the negative.

Let me know if this helps.

Joe
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Saturday, October 16th, 2021 AT 9:56 PM
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Yes, the solenoid I can’t get out looks like that there are 2 side by side.
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Sunday, October 17th, 2021 AT 2:42 AM
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So how do I fix this?
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Sunday, October 17th, 2021 AT 6:20 AM
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Where is the torque solenoids?
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Sunday, October 17th, 2021 AT 10:32 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

The pic above is the TCC solenoid. As far as the bolt, is it the head of the bolt that is bad or the threads? If it's the bolt head, see if you can get your hands on a set of the extractors like I attached. Oftentimes, a parts store will lend them to you.

Then, find the size that fits snug over the stripped bolt head, and try loosening it with that on the bolt. They are made to cut into the bolt in the reverse direction so you can remove the bolt.

I attached the directions below for replacement. As far as torque, the manual isn't supplying them. I would think 7 - 10 ft pounds would be good.

Let me know if this helps.

Joe

See pics below.
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Sunday, October 17th, 2021 AT 8:41 PM
Tiny
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So, I drained the fluid again and there was like metal shaving on the magnet bolt and covered in grayish grease also without the extraction tool. How can I remove the solenoid?
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Monday, October 18th, 2021 AT 11:36 AM
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Without the tool, if the hex head is stripped, the best you can try is to use something like vice grips, or tap on a smaller socket, or anything that will grab that bolt.

Joe
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Monday, October 18th, 2021 AT 5:40 PM
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What about the metal shavings and grey greasy stuff on the drain bolt?
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Tuesday, October 19th, 2021 AT 2:33 PM
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Hi,

Is it possible for you to take a couple of pics and upload them for me to see? That would make things much easier for me to follow.

Take care,

Joe
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Tuesday, October 19th, 2021 AT 6:33 PM
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It looks like a previous owner welded the solenoid bolt to the transmission and I need to get the dang bolt out, what can I do?
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 11:48 AM
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Hi,

Wow! That isn't good. Can you take a pic and upload it for me to see it? That will help me come up with a few ideas.

Often times when I have an issue with a bolt, I will take an air Dremel and with a burr and slowly remove the area that is bad. In this case, the weld.

I need to see exactly what you are dealing with to be sure it would work.

Joe
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 7:58 PM
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Here are the best pics I could get:
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 8:34 PM
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I hope that helps!
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 8:52 PM
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Hi,

It does help. I don't see anything that appears welded. Were you able to try one of the bolt extractors I mentioned above? I feel that would remove the bolt for you. Simply get one that is slightly tight on the bolt, tap it on lightly, and then turn it to remove. It should bite into the bolt. There is enough left of it.

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 9:01 PM
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See the problem is there really isn’t much space to tap anything onto it and I would have done so with a smaller socket if that were possible.
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 9:14 PM
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If you place the socket on an extension, can you get it to a point that it's more accessible? The nice thing about the extractor I mentioned is even if you can't tap it gently into place, most times the pressure of pushing on it with your fingers will cause it to grab.

Joe
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Friday, October 22nd, 2021 AT 10:14 PM
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Sorry to inform you the bolt extractor set failed and would not budge this bolt. I don't know what else to do!
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Saturday, October 23rd, 2021 AT 2:32 PM
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Hi,

Since the space is limited, I'm not sure how I would handle it. Heat could help, but I don't like heating aluminum, but it can be done carefully. We can't cut it because then the threaded part will need drilled out and likely rethreaded.

At this point, I feel heating it may be the only choice. Are you able to heat the bolt with a torch? If so, heat the head of the bolt. In this case, the aluminum it's attached to will draw in the heat. Heat the bolt itself by keeping the flame about 2 to 3 inches away from the bolt head. Try to avoid directing the flame right at the aluminum. Focus it on the bolt head.

Once the bolt gets hot, allow it to cool to room temperature. See if it will come out then. If it doesn't then try heating it again. Eventually, the expansion and contraction of the different metals should break free from corrosion.

I wish I had an easier way to do it, but you have tried all the traditional ways.

I hope this helps.

Joe
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Saturday, October 23rd, 2021 AT 7:47 PM

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