The engine jumps at 3,500 revolutions

Tiny
SAMUEL CASTELLANOS
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  • 2005 CHRYSLER PT CRUISER
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 137,000 MILES
I have the car listed above without turbo. We repaired the engine, and when accelerating it reaches 3,500 revolutions and the engine starts to jump. I thought it was the camshaft sensor, I changed it to an AutoZone one and it made the same fault but with 2,500 revolutions, I bought an original Mopar sensor and still doing the same fault, jump at 3,500 revolutions.
I have already scanned it but it does not show any code, both with my scanner and turning the key.
Thursday, May 23rd, 2019 AT 9:19 AM

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Tiny
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Hi Samuel,

This sounds like you are on the right path because any time you can change a part and it effects the performance or issue, you know you are close. What I can't explain is why the RPM jumps at a lower RPM with a different sensor in it. I suspect that the aftermarket sensor is just simply different so it is causing the PCM to adjust the cam differently then the Mopar sensor.

Your engine is called a World engine and it is a variable valve timed engine. This means the PCM will more a cam shaft phaser to adjust the valve timing to the optimal setting for the given situation.

Couple things come to mind. Was anything recently done to the timing chain or valve train at all?

Did you just recently change oil weights? Go to a thicker or lighter oil? What oil are you using?

Have you checked for any air leaks in the intake system or possible vacuum leaks? It sounds like a lean misfire at higher RPM. Normally the cause of this is unmetered air getting into the engine.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-an-engine-vacuum-gauge

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-camshaft-variable-valve-timing-works

Can you get a video of the RPM jumping and hopefully that will trip some other ideas for me? Seeing it helps a lot. Thanks
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Friday, May 24th, 2019 AT 11:44 AM
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SAMUEL CASTELLANOS
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When I bought the car it was going through compression, and it did not turn on, the head was removed from the engine and it was rectified. Then he turned his head, adjust the time and when I started I found this problem.

As for the oil, I also changed it, but use a 5w-30 as marked by the manufacturer.
There are no vacuum leaks, I also checked that the pressure of the gas pump was correct.
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 8:02 PM
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SAMUEL CASTELLANOS
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Here is the video, in which it is shown to start correctly, and when accelerating, the problem with the revolutions happens.
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2019 AT 7:45 AM
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Can you elaborate on the resetting of the timing? Why did he remove the head again (if he did) and what do you mean by turn the head? Did he mill the head or in other words, cut it down to remove a warp?

Also, when you are driving the vehicle and you accelerate does this happen or does this only happen when in Park?
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2019 AT 6:36 PM
Tiny
SAMUEL CASTELLANOS
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I'm sorry, I do not speak English and I use the Google translator.

I mean, when I bought it, the engine had low compression, some valves were badly seated and the engine had overheated.
I only removed it once to cut it and reinstalled it.
Not two times as the text was translated.
If necessary, if I can correct the synchronization.
The fault also does it when I drive.
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2019 AT 10:30 PM
Tiny
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Okay. I completely understand.

The thing that worries me is if you milled or cut the cylinder head so that it was no longer warped, that you have effected the timing of the engine.

Do you have any codes in the computer?

When the engine was timed, it should have looked like the attachment. You may want to remove the cover again and check timing. If you cut the head down, you should have offset that difference with a thicker gasket. I guess this can be done even though we don't have a specification but the piston to valve clearance has to remain because this is an interference engine which means they will hit each other if not timed correctly. Clearly they are not making contact but we still may have a timing issue.

Also, we have a rev limiter on this engine that should be set around 4,000 RPM. You are not getting there so that tells me the computer is possibly inducing this issue.

Hopefully you have some codes and that will point us in the correct direction. Thanks
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Wednesday, May 29th, 2019 AT 4:48 PM

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